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Author Topic:   What's the beef with the ACLU?
petrophysics1
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Message 14 of 199 (383169)
02-07-2007 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jaderis
02-06-2007 1:41 AM


Jaderis said,
My last question would be - do you understand the Establishment Clause?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
While the ACLU definitely fights against government endorsement of religion (whether it is tacit or overt), many people seem to forget that the ACLU also fights for the people's right to freely exercise their religion, whatever it may be. .
So the beef is here, you and the ACLU think that:
"an establishment of religion" = "government endorsement of religion"
This is simply untrue and was not the origional intent of the Constitution. You and I and the ACLU all know that clause was inserted to prevent the establishment of a Federal( US) church. Let's stop pretending otherwise.
I am not the one trying to change the meaning of this clause, but you and the ACLU appear to be doing just that. Some reason I should blindly accept your new interpretation of this clause?
BTW, that clause did not prevent individual states from having State Churches. Massachusetts had a State Church (Congregationalists) until 1830 as I recall, supported by tax dollars. It was never declared unconstitutional, but the law was changed.
Exhibition Overview - Religion and the Founding of the American Republic | Exhibitions (Library of Congress)
Read all of the above Library Of Congress exhibit, then come back and support "the ACLU definitely fights against government endorsement of religion (whether it is tacit or overt)" from a Founding Father's/historical perspective in regards to what the Constitution actually states.

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