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Author Topic:   The Barbarity of Christianity (as compared to Islam)
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Message 227 of 299 (384207)
02-10-2007 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 222 by Tal
02-10-2007 2:12 PM


Re: setting the record straight
I'd say that that killings that are now being done in the name of Islam are related to Islam in exactly the way that Hitler's genocide was related to Christianity.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 235 of 299 (384223)
02-10-2007 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Tal
02-10-2007 3:09 PM


Re: setting the record straight
Based on statements I've heard different scholars of religion make. Sorry, don't have time right now to dig them out, have to get back to you on that.
I suppose you think I'm going to be impressed by your credentials. I am, as far as Intelligence goes. And, I'm also grateful for the service you provide to our country. I really am. However, that doesn't make you any more an expert on comparative religions than I am.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 239 of 299 (384236)
02-10-2007 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Tal
02-10-2007 3:27 PM


Re: setting the record straight
And nothing I have said has suggested that I think Islamic fundamentalism is not a threat. I fully recognize that it is. My question in this thread is not directed to exonerating, but to comparing.
However, one thing does strike me. In that region, it would seem that in a given case, it might be difficult to differentiate a political motive from a religious one, particularly where the thug is dead. I'd guess that in many cases, it's probably some combination of both. Of course, it also seems likely that they same could be said for much of the violence in the past that has been committed in the name of Christianity.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 258 of 299 (384432)
02-11-2007 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by Tal
02-11-2007 1:02 PM


Re: We're just better, dammit!
Neat letter.
I like Ben Stein.
Thanks for sharing.
Nothing to do with the topic of the OP.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 271 of 299 (384645)
02-12-2007 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by Tal
02-12-2007 1:16 PM


Re: We're just better, dammit!
And they'll continue, only next time it will be in your market.
Uh huh.
Same song and dance they ran during Viet Nam. I must have missed the Vietnamese invasion of the U.S.
If you really think that a bunch of camel jockeys can wage a military action against the U.S. on own soil then I am beginning to doubt your credentials. Next, you're going "remind" me, as if I could ever forget, about 9/11. Then, I will "remind" you that Iraq had as much to do with 9/11 as Turkey did.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 273 of 299 (384650)
02-12-2007 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Archer Opteryx
02-12-2007 3:20 PM


Re: dominoes
Fair point.
I suppose my "rhetorical jab" would have been more on point if Tal had expressed concerns that we need to fight Al Quaeda in Iraq to keep them out of Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia.....

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 276 of 299 (384736)
02-12-2007 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by jar
02-12-2007 4:23 PM


Re: dominoes
Aw, shoot.
Did I forget to click the irony icon again.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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