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Author Topic:   Question.... (Processes of Logic)
mike the wiz
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Message 7 of 210 (39114)
05-06-2003 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by crashfrog
05-05-2003 10:02 PM


Re: Question...
'Neither place exists. If conciousness continues after this life, there's no way to test it.'
this is simply your opinion though. when you say neither place exists
you can't know that for sure unless you have been dead
Evolution has equipped the mind to come to conclusions based on scarce or absent information. I believe that this gives rise to supernatural, superstitious belief.
are you suggesting evolution has a mind of its own , and why would it equip the mind with conclusions which are scarce or absent what purpose would that surve in evolution

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mike the wiz
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Message 9 of 210 (39120)
05-06-2003 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Dan Carroll
05-06-2003 6:25 PM


Re: Question...
'There's nothing to indicate that anything else happens at all. So why should Heaven or Hell even be entertained as more than an idle musing?'
what about near death experiences ?
also , is not the life more than the body , just because scientists can't trace the soul doesn't mean you should dismiss the possibilities,after all death is still one of the great mysteries.

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mike the wiz
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Message 11 of 210 (39128)
05-06-2003 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by wj
05-06-2003 7:25 PM


Re: Question...
'Mike the wiz, feel free to believe anything you want to. But don't expect to convince anyone that your beiefs are correct or even reasonable if you cannot provide supporting evidence. Your evidence for a soul is? Your evidence for the existence of a heaven is? Your evidence for the existence of a hell is?'
i cannot offer any evidence to you wj , i am sorry if i seemed to impose my beliefs on you , this is not my intention , i simply dont think crashfrog should impose his belief that there is no heaven or hell , like he knows something i dont.
as for n.d.e's i have no evidence , but i have heard many cases , and there is surely more to them than your little scientific explanation

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mike the wiz
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Message 14 of 210 (39135)
05-06-2003 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by wj
05-06-2003 7:58 PM


Re: Question...
well thats the difference isn't it, you seek evidence and i dont.
And exactly what is the proof or evidence against heaven and hell, can you disprove these ?
'And the rather high price for entrees.'
what do you mean by this?

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