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RAZD
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Message 51 of 56 (412677)
07-25-2007 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by cavediver
07-25-2007 5:02 PM


(OT Zen?)
.. there is actually only the towel!
Become one with the towel? (Always travel with a towel: Hitchhiker's Guide)
(ducks)

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RAZD
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Message 54 of 56 (413114)
07-27-2007 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by IamJoseph
07-27-2007 2:24 PM


Infinity is NOT "no changes" ... know how?
The criteria for infinity is 'no changes', and that none of its parts can be finite. You can't add $5 to an infinite amount of $.
Logically and mathematically false. Infinity is unlimited therefore you can add to it. The result is still infinity (but it is not necessarily the same infinity). The mathematical concept of a infinite series is one where the sum total increases without bound while continually adding finite elements to the sum total. This contradicts your position.
Your "no changes" is a false definition and part of the problem with your position. It does not show up in any of the above definitions. Immeasurable, unlimited, unbounded, not finite, these are the criteria for infinite.
No webpage found at provided URL: in·fin·i·te -adjective
1. immeasurably great: an infinite capacity for forgiveness.
2. indefinitely or exceedingly great: infinite sums of money.
3. unlimited or unmeasurable in extent of space, duration of time, etc.: the infinite nature of outer space.
4. unbounded or unlimited; boundless; endless: God's infinite mercy.
5. Mathematics.
- a. not finite.
- b. (of a set) having elements that can be put into one-to-one correspondence with a subset that is not the given set.
-noun
6. something that is infinite.
7. Mathematics. an infinite quantity or magnitude.
8. the boundless regions of space.
9. the Infinite or the Infinite Being, God.
You do not get to redefine terms to create straw-man arguments that the item defined by the term does not exist: all you prove is that your (false) concept does not exist, while the actual (true) concept is unaffected.
Enjoy.

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