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jar
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Message 25 of 117 (414227)
08-03-2007 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by macaroniandcheese
08-01-2007 9:21 AM


Re: August 1, Genesis.
A couple points.
First, you are very right about the differences in God in the two Creation Myths. The God found in the younger myth of Genesis 1 is separate from the creation, transcendent, aloof and creates simply by an act of will.
The God of the next myth, the older story, is far more human. This God is hands on, a tinkerer, but very intimate, very much present within the creation.
The second and I think very important point that you touch on is that naming something, knowing its real name, gives on power over it. This feature is missing from the younger tale found in Genesis 1, but is interlaced throughout the rest of Genesis.
Genesis 2:23 reflects that, since it is Adam that names "Woman" is a continuation of the control theme.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 27 of 117 (414245)
08-03-2007 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by macaroniandcheese
08-03-2007 3:11 PM


On the evolution of God
Remember, what we are seeing is the evolving human image of God.
i'm interested in seeing where either idea of god is demonstrated in the rest of the text.
Be careful. You also need to remember that it is not one story, but as I have mentioned in the past, an anthology of anthologies. Many of the stories are actually combinations of several different stories, so even within one story there can be inconsistencies. That is particularly so in the Flood myths where several different stories were combined into one which results in the different numbers of critters and types of birds being the harbingers of the end of the flood.
The bit about naming though is very important. At the time some of the stories were written, the idea of controlling someone or something by naming it was a major influence, and we even see hints of that continuing into the NT.
AbE:
our god is so distant and aloof, even though we talk about him being very present. is it just that nasty modern thought which demands that god be distant because of the lack of evidence?
No.
As you can see from the creation myth found in Genesis 1, the idea of a trancendent God is not modern, but rather has a long, long history.
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Message 29 of 117 (414251)
08-03-2007 3:56 PM
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08-03-2007 3:47 PM


Re: On the evolution of God
but it was compiled by a much smaller number of people who probably selected specific story renderings based on their personal theology.
Don't limit it to just theology.
It is important to remember that the contents were also selected for political reasons, and for societal reasons, for economic reasons, and for legal necessity. Almost all of these were also specific to a particular milieu.

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