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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
I've been browsing through the site for a while, and I've noticed a strange omission - the creationists here continuously post arguments refuting evolution, but so far I don't think I've seen a single post relating to an alternative to evolution.
Do any creationists (or anyone really) have any thoughts regarding a new scientific theory, similar to evolution in that it explains the features of the world we can see around us? I am not an "evolutionist", whatever that means - I am a geologist, and I consider evolution to be a perfectly useful theory, that so far has proved to be correct in my experience. If a new and better theory were developed I wouldn't hesitate in abandoning evolution as obsolete. So, I invite anyone who has any ideas on this to come and share them. The Rock Hound ------------------"Science constantly poses questions, where religion can only shout about answers."
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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
Sorry I'm late replying - Internet problems.
Anyway, I'm suprised that I got so few answers - I thought I might get flamed there for a while As far as I know there is no evidence currently supporting the idea of a world wide flood at any stage in history. There are some areas that experienced very widespread flooding - so much so that it might appear as if the entire world was flooded. I think this is where the story of Noah's flood came from. Bear in mind that I'm basing this on my own knowledge of the geology of Ireland and Britain. If there was a world wide flood I doubt we'd be left out. This is off topic - if the admin could move it to the appropriate forum I'd appreciate it. The Rock Hound
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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
Hey,
I'm still looking for a new alternative to evolution - or maybe a theory of life, the universe and everything - proposed by creationism. Is anyone willing to help me out here? Any creationist at all? If the earth is only 6000 years old, you must have some idea of what's been going on. The Rock Hound
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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
Remember now, all I'm looking for is a valid explanation from one or more creationists for the last 6000 years. Saying its all God's fault is not good enough, since creationists seem to want to back up their claims with scientific evidence instead of faith.
Somebody said that as much already, didn't they? Anyway the nature of whatever Higher being people think exists probably shouldn't be debated here, or we'll never hear the end of it The Rock Hound
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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
6days, you are not discussing the topic I brought up. If you can't or won't talk about it, I suggest you find a different thread that better suits your interest - but if you don't feel like moving, could you at least stop being so rude? Personally I am not a Christian (and as such your post does not apply to me) but I'm sure there are others here who would seriously take offence at your denial of their faith.
The Rock Hound
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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
quote: To the best of my knowledge, the fossil record does show evolution - in Ireland and Britain anyway. Evolution happens over such long time scales that the fossil record, spanning a billion years of prehistory, is the only quantifiable proof that it happens at all. There are several examples that come to mind - the evolution of ammonite sutures, the evolution of the seed, the evolution of leaf structures - all clear cases of "Descent with Modification". Geologists may not know everything, but that doesn't mean we're stupid. We don't need the entire fossil record to prove that evolution happens - what we do have is more than enough proof. The Rock Hound ------------------"Science constantly poses questions, where religion can only shout about answers."
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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
hey brad you got a link to that?
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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
6days, for the last time, if you can't stay on topic then leave this thread. At the very least stop preaching, or I am not going to bother wading through your posts again. As I said, I am not a Christian and most of your babbling does not apply to me - but many others will be offended.
Look, the only reason I brought up this topic is that the only alternative to evolution seems to be Bible literalism, i.e. God did it all and that's it. Despite this, YEC's insist on dragging science in to explain their supernatural beliefs - so they must have some other theory instead of evolution. That's all I'm looking for - not a sermon on how I'm a sinner and going to hell and whatnot. Anyway, my own views on Christianity would probably offend a lot of people - but I make a point of not bringing my personal opinions into a discussion. Could you possibly extend the same courtesy to everyone else here too? The Rock Hound
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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
crashfrog is right - I didn't really think any creationists would join in here. It's not their style, apparently.
It's very telling, isn't it? I give them a chance to convince me there's something other than evolution to consider, and I get no takers apart from an evangelist ranting on about how I'm going to hell. Ah, who cares if it's off-topic. We might as well use this thread while it's here - so, 6days, I invite you to post about Hawking and his wacky theories, and the evil demon of evolution that has come to steal our souls... The Rock Hound
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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
Not talking? Didn't think so.
As 6days is apparently incognito, I declare this thread closed (if its ok with the admin ) The Rock Hound
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IrishRockhound Member (Idle past 4466 days) Posts: 569 From: Ireland Joined: |
Ah. My command of the English language fails again... well, you get the idea anyway.
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