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Author Topic:   If evolution is not the answer, then what is?
crashfrog
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Message 13 of 52 (41537)
05-27-2003 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by 6days
05-27-2003 10:12 PM


Re: A Christian Alternative to Creation
Now, if we can only get you to come to church . . .
You might be surprised - from what Truthlover has told us in the past I wouldn't be surprised if he goes to church and studies the Bible far more often than you.
Practically one Bible for every month, or so it may seem to me. With so much shifting sand beneath your theory, the resulting dust cloud obscures all the differences and causes them to superficially appear to be a consistent whole.
Personally, I'd rather be almost right, always moving closer to the truth; than totally and eternally wrong. What use is your "foundation of stone" if it means your house is built in the wrong place?
I'm no person of faith. I don't think faith is useful. But if I was a person of faith, I'd sooner be of truthlover's brand of faith than yours, I think. At least his faith doesn't demand I turn my brain off.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1497 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 23 of 52 (41756)
05-29-2003 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by 6days
05-29-2003 10:50 PM


Re: A Christian Alternative to Creation
This is nothing more than the "True Scotsman Fallacy":
"Chritians don't believe in evolution!"
"Yes, they do. Here's one here, for instance."
"Well, uh, true Christians don't believe in evolution!"
Don't you find it at all arrogant or hypocritical to deny the faith of others just because they're not willing to pervert science to some theological aim? I'm just curious. Sounds like you need to take care of the beam in your own eye before you condemn other people of faith.
Me, I'm an atheist. It's possible people like you drove me out of the fold. Just something to think about.

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crashfrog
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Message 44 of 52 (42463)
06-09-2003 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by 6days
06-09-2003 3:59 PM


Re: You Wanted to Know
I’m particularly interested in Hawking’s theory
What theory is that? Hawking is an astrophysicist, not an evolutionary biologist, and his best-known theory explains the so-called "Hawking radiation" that emanates from the event horizons of black holes.
I'm not sure what you think that has to do with evolution. Perhaps you could elaborate.
I think these two areas alone are your Achilles heel since so much rests on them being correct.
Then you might care to elaborate exactly what you think those theories state. I'd point out we know exactly what DNA does - it codes for proteins. Just because we can't predict the function, if any, of a given sequence of amino acids (the "protein folding" problem) doesn't mean that DNA is a total mystery to us.
Irishrockhound, I suspect we're terminally off-topic - creationists won't provide an actual scientific model (as I suspect you knew) because, to their way of thinking, their model doesn't have to be scientific. It just has to be Biblically supported and explain some evidence.
Anyway, I'd like 6Days to explain a bit more about what he/she thinks the relationship of evolution and Hawking is. I know it's off-topic but I think it could be interesting.

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