Please read your own posts so I don't have to spend time correcting you.
Also try to understand what I'm addressing. The autistic child may be genetically susceptible.
You already have your gold star for Thimerosal.
From what I have read, they have no absolute answers for autism. The research is ongoing.
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One. Flu vaccines are not mandatory.
Two. There are thimerosal free flu vaccines.
Which means that your statement in
Message 53 that
"There is no mercury in vaccines (anymore)." is incorrect.
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What links? My last post contained no links.
In
Message 53 you said
"From my last post:" (which would refer to your
Message 42) and then provided a quote. So my comment that
your links from your previous post don't go directly to what you quoted, refers to your
Message 42 since I was responding to your
Message 53. Since I was responding to 53, that would make 42 your previous post. Clear now?
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How do you reconcile that fact with your contention that autistic children have a higher body burden?
Since scientists have their own lingo and since you just quote and don't rephrase for your known audience, I may be misunderstanding what is meant by body burden. To me it means the total amount of mercury in the body.
When
methyl mercury is ingested, approximately 95% is absorbed through the gastrointestinal tract into the bloodstream and it is rapidly carried to other parts of the body. The half-life for methyl mercury in the body is approximately 70 days. It is slowly excreted from the body over several months, mainly in feces.
We agree that methyl mercury crosses the placenta.
Methyl mercury (found in fish) crosses the placenta.
Message 67
So methyl mercury has plenty of time to get to the unborn child through the placenta. So if the child is already genetically susceptible, the mercury may be a trigger.
If baby teeth function similar to tree rings in that they show a record of exposure to heavy metals during the prenatal and newborn period, then the the autistic children supposedly have had more exposure to mercury in that timeframe.
Baby teeth measure link between heavy metal, hyperactivity in UC Irvine study
Much like growth rings in a tree, the enamel provides a continuous record of exposure during the prenatal and newborn period.
If the autistic child had been exposed to more, but there is less in the hair which is a snapshot of what's in the blood at the time; the question is: Where is the mercury?
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If autistic children had a decreased ability to excrete mercury thru urine/feces, it wouldn't work with chelation either.
How do you know that?
As I understand the function of chelation the DMSA should have a stronger affinity for the mercury than the tissues of the body. I assume, probably incorrectly, that the urine of the children (both sides) would have been tested before using DMSA. I don't recall seeing results for that, but if the autistic children were already excreting more mercury in their urine than the norms, then there wouldn't have been a need for chelation to make the point that the autistic could excrete mercury. I don't see that using DMSA shows that the autistic child's body adequately rids the body of mercury on its own.
Our Preferred Poison
Mercury in the environment.People are exposed to methylmercury almost entirely by eating contaminated fish and wildlife that are at the top of aquatic foodchains. The National Research Council, in its 2000 report on the toxicological effects of methylmercury, pointed out that the population at highest risk is the offspring of women who consume large amounts of fish and seafood. The report went on to estimate that more than 60,000 children are born each year at risk for adverse neurodevelopmental effects due to in utero exposure to methylmercury. In its 1997 Mercury Study Report to Congress, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency concluded that mercury also may pose a risk to some adults and wildlife populations that consume large amounts of fish that is contaminated by mercury.
The Three Modern Faces of MercuryMethyl mercury is slowly metabolized to inorganic mercury mainly by microflora in the intestines, probably at a rate of about 1% of the body burden per day. Some demethylation also occurs in phagocytic cells The biochemical mechanism is unknown. Although methyl mercury is the predominant form of mercury during exposure, inorganic mercury slowly accumulates and resides for long periods in the central nervous system. It is believed to be in an inert form, probably insoluble mercury selenide (18).
Methyl mercury supposedly turns into inorganic mercury which does apparently accumulate in the nervous system. Supposedly there is little known about the effects of ethyl mercury on the nervous system.
My conclusions are still the same:
Message 46 So while mercury levels in the mother may increase the risk of autism, what I've read seems to show that there is some difference in how the autistic deal with mercury.
Message 64 So wouldn't it be prudent to find a way to check mothers or the infants before vaccines are administered? I would think that would be the next step. Don't vaccinate those at risk and see if autism develops and/or the severity. Have those types of tests been done?
Message 64 Autism may be one of those anomalies that happens when all the planets are aligned just right. IOW, the right genetic anomaly is present, the right level of mercury is present, etc.
what I see is that women of child bearing age need to be extra careful concerning mercury exposure.
At some point if they haven't already they would need to get down to testing the tissues of the autistic to confirm mercury levels.
Again if the child is already genetically susceptible, then vaccines even without the Thimerosal may be a trigger or aggravate. Newborns are given a vaccination right out of the womb.
I still think they need to be able to detect high risk newborns and not give them vaccines and see if autism still develops. Maybe vaccines at a later date are better. They still have a lot of research to do. Hopefully they won't get hung up on one avenue.
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