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edge
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Message 8 of 68 (4350)
02-13-2002 12:36 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by KingPenguin
02-13-2002 12:08 AM


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Originally posted by KingPenguin:
i guess i am being ignorant today. anyway wouldnt those columns be subject to things like mass erosion and radiation.
Erosion, yes. We recognize erosion in the geological record frequently. I am not sure what you mean by mass erosion. At any rate mass wasting is not usually a problem in constructing a geological column. I don't think radiation has much to do with the position of fossils.
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also would it be possible for the bones to sift downward in the ground into another layer?
Probably not, but even if it did happen, we would have a very different fossil record. Extremely mixed up if nothing else.
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maybe at one point there was an underground river that shifted a few of the fossils around and changed the order, even though there would be evidence of this the underfround river might have been caved in on by dirt from the surface.
That would have to be on very unusual river to rearrange the entire fossil record in different locations on several continents...
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the less advanced lifeforms might have lived underground and found more food where they were eventually fossilized.
I think you are grasping here.
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edge
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Message 32 of 68 (4464)
02-14-2002 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by TrueCreation
02-13-2002 11:32 PM


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Originally posted by TrueCreation:
--How do they know that the whole geologic column is included in the crust, is it by sedimentation deposits, fossilized remains, or both?
--And what is the point of the argument on the Geologic column, what do we see it as proving and disproving, or showing that it sustains nothing.
--And last, I was just wondering, what are the mechenisms for sediment deposit, as I know of some, I am not sure If I am getting the whole pie.
Usually by drilling and comparing with mapped geology, fossil data and stratigraphic correlation. I think most of these areas have been extensively explored for oil.
These locations are brought up because of the common creationist argument that the entire geological column is not present anywhere in the world. But you are correct. It is not necessary in any event. There is no reason to expect all time periods to be represented at any one location.
Mechanisms for sedimentary deposits are many. Fluvial deposits, pelagic deposits and turbidites are just a few. I'm not sure what you mean here.
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Originally posted by redstang281:
I'm asking them for proof that Charlie Lyle visited any of those locations.
Do you mean Charles Lyell? Why would this be important?

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edge
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Message 58 of 68 (5081)
02-19-2002 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by redstang281
02-19-2002 1:42 PM


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Originally posted by redstang281:
One of the ironies of the evolution-creation debate is that the creationists have accepted the mistaken notion that the fossil record shows a detailed and orderly progression and they have gone to great lengths to accommodate this `fact’ in their flood geology.
Raup, David M. Evolution and the fossil record
Science, Vol. 213 (July 17, 1981) p. 289

Excuse me, but what is your point here?

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