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Rrhain
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Message 15 of 31 (456456)
02-18-2008 6:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Logic
02-14-2008 2:50 AM


Logic writes:
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How can you follow a book which contains a God who is displayed as loving in the New Testament yet of war and death in the Old Testament?
You assume that the god of the New Testament is the same god as the god of the Old.
Oh, Christians would love to have you believe that they're the same god, but Jews don't seem to agree. The fact that there is this figure, "Jesus," who claims to be god is a huge sticking point. It is clear that they are not talking about the same being.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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Rrhain
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Message 17 of 31 (456569)
02-18-2008 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by I-am-created
02-18-2008 6:43 AM


I-am-created responds to me:
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Here's food for thought.
No, it isn't really. Not all arguments can be reversed.
We're wandering afield. You asked a question. I gave you a way out of your dilemma. You seem to be upset that there was a way out that you didn't think of. Let's let it go at that.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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Rrhain
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Message 24 of 31 (456787)
02-20-2008 3:30 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by I-am-created
02-19-2008 6:39 AM


I-am-created responds to me:
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You can't say with 100% accuracy that the God of the Old Testament is different from the God of the New Testament.
Yes, I can. The god of the Old Testament is singular. There is no such thing as a "son." That would violate the first commandment: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
The god of the New Testament is plural. There is a "son."
Thus, the god of the New Testament is not the same being as the god of the Old.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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Rrhain
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Message 26 of 31 (456970)
02-21-2008 2:07 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by I-am-created
02-20-2008 6:42 AM


I-am-created responds to me:
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These don't sound like singular words...
Irrelevant. First commandment: Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Judaism is a monotheistic religion. There is no "son."
quote:
John 14:10
Doesn't change anything. As Judaism clearly states, there is no "son" and for Jesus to claim to be god is blasphemy.
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Jesus repeatedly told everyone that he and the Father are one.
Then that would mean that if Jesus were standing before you, then god is not in his heaven. Remember, Moses brought god with them in the temple as they wandered the desert.
And notice the word used: Father. There is no "father" in Judaism for there is no "son." There is only god. There is no need for a "son." If god wants to deal with you directly, then he comes down and deals with you directly. Remember Job. When things finally reach a head, god manifests directly. Page after page in the Old Testament of god saying that power is his, even Moses doesn't perform any miracles but is simply the conduit through which god works his wonders, and suddenly there's another god-being?
That's not the theology of Judaism. That's Christianity and it is not the same god.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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