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Message 21 of 103 (457071)
02-21-2008 1:17 PM

Reply to: Message 19 by ChristianJuggalo
02-21-2008 1:08 PM

So atheists just want to live and die without the belief of living in peace and harmony? That's sad.

No, we just find our peace and harmony in something other than a fairy tale. In my mind, it's much sadder that folks live their entire lives believing in a hereafter that's never going to come.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin

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Message 28 of 103 (457082)
02-21-2008 1:31 PM

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02-21-2008 1:28 PM

Re: No, we just find our peace and harmony in something other than a fairy tale. In m

If their [sic] was no God or Jesus, I would not pray for you.

You would if you thought there were.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 35 of 103 (457095)
02-21-2008 1:47 PM

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02-21-2008 1:43 PM

Re: Oh, boy, here we go again...

No, what Percy was referring to is another scientific illiterate who thinks that something being "just a theory" in any way means that it's of less value than say a "law" or a "fact."

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 40 of 103 (457102)
02-21-2008 2:00 PM

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02-21-2008 1:54 PM

Re: No, what Percy was referring to is another scientific illiterate who thinks that

You admit you are a scientific illiterate, yet you think you are qualified to declare that one of the most widely accepted "scientific theories" in the world is inconsistent with one of the most widely accepted "laws."

Which do you think is more likely: that your criticism is based on a faulty understanding of one or both, or people who have studied and worked with both for all of their professional lives got them wrong?

{ABE}

By the way, it's "thermodynamics." You'll have a little bit more credibility if you at least know what it's called.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 49 of 103 (457114)
02-21-2008 2:16 PM

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02-21-2008 2:09 PM

Re: Well, science has evidence.

I will not let my emotions get in the way of learning true science. I just don't believe that the universe could form all on it's own.

Well, there goes another inconsistency meter.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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