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pelican
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Message 75 of 131 (460169)
03-13-2008 3:11 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by Rrhain
03-13-2008 2:16 AM


Re: Patience is a virtue
Thanks Rrhain, I wonder if you recognise words by the sound of them? I myself do it this way. In fact that is how I spell them. I don't hold the full word in my head to instantly recognise, I hear them. I kinda remember the exceptions and free up my memory space.
I read the OP passage easily because I grasped the concept in the first sentence. I thought it was quite ingenious to test one's own mind.

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Message 76 of 131 (460170)
03-13-2008 3:23 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by ThreeDogs
03-12-2008 1:48 PM


Every dog has its day.
Words incorrectly spelled is either a sign of mental illness or personal carelessness. A slob by any other word, spells carelessly and dresses with equal abandon.
Poetically said but it just might come back and bite you up the arse one day.

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Message 80 of 131 (460332)
03-14-2008 8:17 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by Rrhain
03-14-2008 6:00 AM


Re: Patience is a virtue
Ah, a well trained mind!

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pelican
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Message 82 of 131 (471290)
06-15-2008 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Hyroglyphx
06-15-2008 5:49 PM


Re: The human mind
This has nothing to do with "smart people," an undefined term. I'm pretty sure everyone has received this chain email before. I've received like three or times. Anyhow, as the paragraph suggests, "it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."
Pretty much anyone familiar with the English language could read this with relative ease. It has nothing to do with how smart someone is.
I would agree. The point was 'why is correct spelling so important to some when nothing is lost in communication'?
Many posters on this forum have been 'corrected' and 'judged' and 'ignored' because of incorrect spelling. I truly don't think correct spelling is of great concern when it can clearly be understood, maybe with a little patience and effort.

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Message 84 of 131 (471314)
06-15-2008 11:24 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Alasdair
06-15-2008 9:22 PM


If you want people to expend effort reading what you have written, it's only polite to put effort into writing it - this includes good spelling and good grammar!
..................................and if one is very polite and has put in thier best effort?

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Message 86 of 131 (471323)
06-16-2008 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by Taz
06-15-2008 11:39 PM


I'd hardly call the semi-sentence above as "best effort". First of all, "one" is singular. But more importantly, "thier" is actually spelled "their".
When I communicate online, I try my best to not make common mistakes. Do I make mistakes? Sure. Do I try not to? You betcha. I also try my best when I communicate verbally in real life. I try my best not to stutter, use fillers like "um" and "uh", etc. Do I sometimes stutter and use fillers? You betcha.
The point is some effort is better than none.
Umm............. there is a fine example of missing the point.
I meant someONE. Your understanding makes no sense at all. Let me clarify, what if someone has put in their best effort and is very polite?
Edited by pelican, : No reason given.

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pelican
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Message 88 of 131 (471329)
06-16-2008 2:19 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by Taz
06-16-2008 1:32 AM


Comprehending incorrect spelling
Noone here is a monster. If best effort and politeness are both present, then we will return in kind. That said, little or no effort is neither polite nor "best effort".
How would you tell the difference?
For example, my incorrect spelling of 'their' was pointed out to me. I wasn't being impolite and I made an honest mistake.
Drawing attention to this irrelevent mistake, drew attention away from the point. There was no comprehension whatsoever of what I was saying and it wasn't because I made a spelling mistake.
Comprehende?

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Message 94 of 131 (471469)
06-17-2008 1:52 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by lyx2no
06-16-2008 2:23 PM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
No one is perfect, but does that somehow excuse the need to try?
That wasn't the point of the OP.
pelican, unless you believe yourself to be endlessly fascinating, pay extra attention to #5.
What the ??????????????????

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pelican
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Message 96 of 131 (471481)
06-17-2008 5:25 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by Larni
06-17-2008 3:57 AM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
I suppose it's more of a 'what' that is ignored. Full posts but mainly the whole point of the posts.

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pelican
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Message 98 of 131 (471498)
06-17-2008 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by lyx2no
06-17-2008 7:49 AM


Re: "what is the big problem?"
OP : However, if the word is recognizable and in context, what is the big problem?
What is the big problem when the word is recognizable and in context?

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pelican
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Message 101 of 131 (471684)
06-17-2008 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Larni
06-17-2008 4:45 PM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
Or not understood and subsequently ignored because of crappy spelling and grammer.
Larni, I don't get your point because you've spelled Grammer wrong.

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pelican
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Message 103 of 131 (471778)
06-18-2008 6:58 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by Larni
06-18-2008 4:21 AM


Re: You got me.
I didn't mean to get you. I meant that because I focussed on your honest mistake, I ignored the point you were making. What was it again?
Repeated spelling and grammar mistakes correlate in our heads with a lack of credibility.
Ahh good judgement! I will go by your rules and judge your post as not credible because bloody hell, Larni, you've spelled fundamental wrong. Gee I'm exasperated.
If you want a technical reason look up the fundemental attribution error.
That is very naughty.
By the way the definition of 'fundy attributes' sounds like a mental disorder.

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pelican
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Message 105 of 131 (471783)
06-18-2008 8:06 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by Larni
06-18-2008 7:26 AM


Re: You got me.
The fundamental attribution error has nothing to do with fundamentalism: it is social psychology.
Yeh I know. I looked it up to check my spelling. ha ha
I think it is a perfect social psychological condition that supports my OP. Ta mate!

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pelican
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Message 107 of 131 (471809)
06-18-2008 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by Larni
06-18-2008 10:16 AM


Re: You got me.
A good question to ask is 'why have our brains evolved to make the fundamental attribution error?'
What if it's a sign that your brain is in the process of evolving from recognising this error in your thinking??

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pelican
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Message 109 of 131 (471878)
06-18-2008 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Larni
06-18-2008 3:21 PM


Re: Not quite.
Most of the time some one with the spelling and grammatical capacity of a cat's arse is not going to hold much in the way of intellectual credability.
in·tel·lect (ntl-kt)
n.
1.
a. The ability to learn and reason; the capacity for knowledge and understanding.
b. The ability to think abstractly or profoundly.
Do you think intellect relies on correct spelling?
It's a short cut to judging not comprehending. It isn't termed 'error' for nothing.
It sucks when it is assumed about oneself but them's the breaks.
It sucks when excellent posts are ignored because the reader can't see past the need to judge and correct the author.

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