On the Threshold of Bigotry

Well, for starters, they don't have marriageable equipment. Would you use a Phillips screwdriver on a slotted head?”HMEdited by Hoot Mon, : Just helping Rrhain out with his tools.

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If you got some quince, Pussycat, I got a runcible spoon.

Just what do you think bestial men do to sheep that straight people don't do?

Rrhain, let me turn this around to serve your desire for defining boundaries. What do straight people do that gays don't?Possible answers: Have intercourse with members of the opposite sex. Get married and have children. Let the wives have coffee in the morning with the other ladies in the neighborhood while their husbands are off at work?btw: What happens to the wives when two men get "married"? Wives would seem to be terribly discriminated against, wouldn't you say? What do gay men have against wives, anyway? Wives are real people too, you know, who just happen to be women married to real men. Maybe the wives need to come out of the closet and demand special laws to protect their titular marriages from being stolen by gay people who hate them.”HMEdited by Hoot Mon, : Always looking for better ways to help Rrhain out.

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If you got some quince, Pussycat, I got a runcible spoon.

Can you imagine a gay married man being elected POTUS? What would his partner be called? "The First Gay Gentleman"? Can you imagine the First Family hosting a dinner for OPEC officials to get them to lower their oil prices? Can you imagine the First Family hosting a dinner for the Pope to get him to relax his opposition to birth control? What would a gay POTUS say to the rest of the world? And why should there be anything wrong with that?The threshold of bigotry is a slippery slope.”HM

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If you got some quince, Pussycat, I got a runcible spoon.

What is it about hetero marriage that prevents a gay man from marrying a woman?Edited by Hoot Mon, : Rrhain should be grateful for my efforts to aid his learning.

What about the wife who is necessary to make a married couple? Shouldn't every marriage include at least one wife? Would you agree that all wives are necessarily married to their husbands? Would you agree that all wives are sexed female and all husbands male? Don't you think there ought to be a law that requires every marriage to include one or more wives. Who ever heard of a marriage without a wife?Gay-marriage advocates, by their own assertions, are anti-wifehood. Gay men are out to dispense with the need for wives, which is tantamount to anti-marriage, and it ought to be identified as such on the threshold of bigotry.”HM

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If you got some quince, Pussycat, I got a runcible spoon.

Do lesbians have wives? How could you tell? And how do two gay men decide who is the wife? Do they arm wrestle? Draw straws?”HM

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If you got some quince, Pussycat, I got a runcible spoon.

So when two lesbians get married are there two wives? If not, then who gets to the husband?The threshold of bigotry is a complicated place with all these inverted homosexuals pretending to be wives.If Judy is the wife of Jim, and Chuck is the wife of Larry, then we will have to teach our children to play house differently. After all, we don't want no stinkin' bigots at their make-believe tea parties.”HM

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If you got some quince, Pussycat, I got a runcible spoon.

Now we're getting somewhere. I set out to prove that the gays were after more than full access to all the legal benefits of state-sanctioned civil unions. That was their claim”that the bigots we're keeping them from having all the rights and privileges granted by the law to straight people. But even gaining that is not enough for them. They want to steal a titular prize they don't qualify for. They want to get "married," too, as if they were doing it with opposite sexes.And so who is the bigot here? It's not an issue about denying the gays anything. If two men get civilly united and there is no wife as a result, then they are not married. (Wives are always females in my Vocabulary 101.) They can be something else, though, that applies to same-sex civil unions. I've offered a few words as candidates for your Vocabulary 101. They were stupid, of course. But why can't they have their own title for be civilly united homosexuals and call it, say, "domestic partnerships"? Why can't they get DPed?If they backed off this one niggling detail they might garner more respect from the general population.I make this differentiation only because "marriage," to me, and to a whole lot of other good people, implies a civilly united man and woman. Just because the gays have come out the closet and are now demanding that marriage is not what it was always thought to be doesn't change the meaning of the word one damn bit.There must be something intrinsically bigoted about me. If I met two men on the street and introduced myself to them, and if one of them relied, "Hi, my name is Chuck, and this is my wife Larry." I would probably blow a little fuse somewhere in my brain, blink, smile, and say, "Pleased me meet you both, especially the lovely wife." And then I would beat a hasty retreat for home and laugh my silly ass off.”HM

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If you got some quince, Pussycat, I got a runcible spoon.

Well, then I'm intolerant towards the idea of simply allowing homosexuals to get married. I'll fess up to that, because that is not my idea of marriage. Why are the gays intolerant of my take on marriage? Doesn't intolerance work both ways? Whose opinion is more intolerant”the gays' or the straights'? Then why do we differentiate between the races? "Two robbers held up the First State Bank today; one was white and the other black." Isn't that the same kind of discrimination? Well, yes. So I guess I'm bigoted for that. Which one of us is more right than the other? Oh, Mod, that doesn't help much! But you are probably right about my attitude: I haven't yet adjusted to Chuck's husband or wife Larry. I suppose I am standing on someone's threshold of bigotry. But it doesn't seem like it to me. If Chuck and Larry came over to my house and held hands on the couch, I would notice more than if John and Linda came over to my place and help hands on the couch. I would be dishonest to claim anything else. It starts there, this bigotry of mine. My psyche won't let go of it. It's a bad case of homophobia; contagious, too, like the common cold. In fact there's a goddamn epidemic of it. OK, so I'm standing on your threshold of bigotry. Chuck and Larry will eventually get everything they want. Marriage, too, I suppose. But some of us bigots will go on saying: "Gosh, a man and a man don't seem at all like a man and woman." But if I try hard enough maybe I can see that it doesn't matter for the sake of human progress. I hope Mr. and Mrs. Chuck and Larry will ride proudly in their wedding coach, and I won't utter another peep about how that seems just a bit odd to me. (In return I hope the gays will support polygamy and all other "harmless" abberations of the marriage contract.)Thanks to all who participated. This thread has cured me of my bigotry. Let's close it down before Rrhain another redundancy attack.”HM

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Shut up he explained. ”Ring Lardner

Well, not exactly. From Oxford's:

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husband |hzbnd|
noun
a married man considered in relation to his wife : she and her husband are both retired.

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Whose dictionary are you working out of?”HM

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Shut up he explained. ”Ring Lardner

You mean using dictionaries for looking up the definitions of words?”HM

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Shut up he explained. ”Ring Lardner

You've got it backwards. They are interfering with my interference of their freedom of action to interfere with my freedom of action to interfere.”HM

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Shut up he explained. ”Ring Lardner

Let's consider this matter of men kissing each other in TV ads. Is Heinz using the evocation of bigotry to sell its mayonnaise? And why?For the same reason that Nike used the evocation of bigotry to sell its sneakers? And why?Possible answers:1. It's a brand new day for same-sex kissing and NBA dick sucking.2. It's a fair and equitable way to let the gays out of the closet.3. It's sexually arousing to everyone because male kissing and dick sucking will make them want to buy sneakers and mayo?4. It's offensive to most people who will forget the ads but buy the products?5. It's what everybody wants to see, so they will want gay mayo and sneakers, too?6. It's a way of telling us how really stupid we are?7. It's the last phase or civilization, as Toynbee describes it, when public vulgarity and barbarism replace private discretion and an acute sense of propriety?Be careful, Rrhain. I know that you know that I know you know you are not the bigot that you know I know you are.”HM

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Shut up he explained. ”Ring Lardner

Rrhain, If you can get dick sucking from the Nike ad then you can see two men kissing in the Heinz ad.This is where you prove that you are living in a frilly fantasy world. If the two men kissing in that ad is not the key attention grabber then you can't see what's going on. You need to get real, Rrhain. You are my idea of a classic bigot with blinders on. But thanks for posting on my thread, anyway; it helps us all see where the rubber meets the Hershey Highway.”HM