Was Jesus A Legitimate Child?

In the quick question/answer forum Taz raised the question as to whether Jesus was a legitimate child being God was not married to Mary.My answer is:The supreme creator/designer of mankind can legitimately apply any situation to any of his creatures. God = creator; Mary = creature.Since it may be a topic which warrants some discussion here's where that can happen. What do you think?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

1. If God be supreme majesty and creator/designer of the all that is in the universe, it is the supreme majesty who determines what is legitimate and what is not. God sets the rules and parameters of what is good and what is evil.2. It was the multi present, multipurpose power agent of God which is sent by God throughout the universe to do the work that God purposes to do. The Holy Spirit is not a person. It/he is in a sense that part of God which did things like the work of creation when planet earth was visited as a void waste to become the beautifully designed planet which we live on. It is this spirit/power of God which effected the birth of a holy son in a virgin human creature tainted with the inherent sin nature, inherited from Adam, the first man.3. The virgin birth was not a natural birth which one could make a rational judgment on as to legitimacy.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

You're right Rbp and I've elaborated on your point. Thanks.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

God didn't create Jesus. Jesus was the only born son of God. According to the OT, the book of Job chapter 1 says that there were other sons of God. These were created. Jesus was the only on born of God by his spirit. Jesus progenated from both God and from humanity, thus he is referred to in scripture as "the only begotten of the Father" and the "son of man."

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Mary had no sex with anyone. Mary had a little egg which was miraculously fertilized aside from any sex act by spirit having no sex organs.This debate is sooo ludicrous. I can't believe the absurdity of the cristophobic arguments some people come up with. NOTE: I edited out the words, "of you," after reading the message more carefully as it appears that this quote does not necessarily reflect the messenger's opinion.Welcome to EvC, Mylacovich. My apologies for carelessness in reading. Edited by Buzsaw, : Correct error

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

But one can predict and know the mind of God to the extent that God intend for us to know. The longer and the more one studies the scriptures of God, prays and receives responses from God etc, the more one gets to know God as to his intentions, purposes and precepts.The apostle Paul put it that "the natural man knows not the things of the Spirit of God." To be born from above of God's spirit is to have the mind waved into the frequencies of Jehovah's spiritual realm. That helps, but not sufficient outside of serious devotion and study of the scriptures.Let God be God. If he be supreme God, majesty and owner of the universe, who are we, the creatures of him, to judge him? All we can do is to learn to understand his good motives for what he does. I see total justice in all of the killings he has himself required, both of pagans and of his own people who fail to acknowledge and obey his rules.It's all for the ultimate good of the planet and the universe at large.Having said the above, the same goes with the virgin birth. I've shown how no illigitimate act was performed on Mary. I been with God, the commander and a soldier in his army long enough in the war between good and evil to understand and know a lot about his motives and MO relative to why he does what he does relative to his coming kingdom.Having read how it's all going to play out, I know it's all going to end with our side winning and the total defeat of the forces of evil. The virgin Mary's holy child will return to do what he was ultimately born to do, i.e rule the planet as the first ever global righeous kingdom of God on earth.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Straggler, sometimes I think you're pretty sharp and other times I wonder. I SAID, to the extent that he wishes. The Bible is full of what's in the mind of God. Read/study it and go figure. But in this silly debate nobody has substantiated that Mary had sex with any other than her own husband or that the miraculous unusual birth of Jesus came about via anything illigitimate or immoral on the part of God as per his standards set forth in the Bible. But you aren't a god, are you? You ignore the reasons set forth in the scriptures as to why the killing was necessary for the good of all which I've cited.In wars we know that people get killed and things get broken. That's warfare and there is warfare going on in the universe. Scripture (Revelation 12) says Satan and his army will be cast to earth for the final battles, having great wrath.The birth of the messiah/savior, Jesus was necessary for effecting the eventual victory of the war which has raged since Eden on earth. The messiah could not have been a naturally born man. He had to be begotten of God via miracle. If you lack the understanding to grasp that, sorry, I can't help you. That's not the topic perse here. Read the reasons in the scriptures as to why God kills and see for yourself. Well, thankfully, you're not in omniscient God's place. The Bible does say that who is not for God is against him and who resists him will end up in torment. That's not my wish for you or anyone else by any means. That's what it says and I'm convinced of it. Thus the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom as King Solomon stated in the Proverbs. Other writers in the book attest to it. Warnings are all through the scriptures that it's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an angry god.In his love and compassion for fallen man, that virgin birth which you people regard as illigitimate was for us all that we might escape wrath and enjoy the bliss of salvation and resurrection to a better world. I can't help that you don't believe it. All I can do is cite all of the corroborating evidence that makes me believe it in hopes that you will see the light and enjoy the peace that I have relative to the future and destination.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.