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Topic: Sarah Palin & Intelligent Design + Creationism
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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Message 1 of 51 (481420)
09-10-2008 8:15 PM
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Is Sarah Palin serious about creationism and ID in schools?
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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Message 4 of 51 (481432)
09-10-2008 9:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Coyote
09-10-2008 8:58 PM
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Re: Is Sarah serious...
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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Message 11 of 51 (481450)
09-11-2008 2:45 AM
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Reply to: Message 7 by johnfolton
09-10-2008 11:45 PM
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It seems Palins focus is on drilling oil in our own country getting focus on the economy with an independence off foreign oil.
If you actually believe that, well, there may be some slim chance of hope for you. Even at the most generous, optimistic estimate, we'll still be importing the vast majority of our oil. America simply cannot produce that much. Furthermore, prices won't fundamentally change based on additional US supply. If you understand how the market for oil works, you'll know McCain/Palin's plan is a joke. As for the alleged lack of transitional fossils, you are either lying or are ignorant. Here's two fat lists of numerous transitional species. Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQCC200: Transitional fossils And there is no evidence for a young Earth. None. And your alleged polonium argument is a PRATT CF201: Polonium Haloes"Polonium Haloes" Refuted You lose. Feel free to try again Edited by obvious Child, : No reason given.
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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Darwin was not an atheist. Nor was Mendel. Nor was Alfred Wallace. Furthermore, ID nor creationism are theories. Theories require facts and experiments. ID nor Creationism have any actual science. And evolution is not a religion. A religion generally requires faith. I can touch, see, eat and observe the various products of evolution. You cannot do that for creationism or ID. How about, for a change, you actually provide evidence? I know it's a stretch as a creationist, but try.
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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You need billions of transisitional fossils if the earth is but a young earth. How pray tell did the butterfly morph into a bird just how did the wing evolute the fossil record is quite clear all the fossil record from the cambrian explosion came fully formed. Why pray tell is that unless they were all created as the fossil record attests fully formed. How is the fossil record lying, etc...
I noticed you are now changing your beliefs. You stated there weren't any. Now you are stating there aren't enough. Which is it? If you want for evidence, there are numerous threads showing how the fossil record supports evolution. I won't play your PRATT game. Dude. Did you even read the links? here's another. Geoscience Research Institute | I think we need more research on that... Edited by AdminNosy, : off topic post hidden
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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Off topic post hidden. Do you ever stop with the lies? CG001: Darwin recanted You claimed that evolution was based on atheists and their ideas. Mendel provided much of the early knowledge of genetic inheritance. He was not an atheist. Your dishonesty is massive. Monk Michael Dimond does not speak for the Catholic Church. Furthermore, John Paul II accepted virtually all of evolution with the caveat of Man's special creation. I'd frankly trust the POPE over a monk. And once again, a creationist fails with flying colors to provide any evidence of anything he's ever said. Edited by AdminNosy, : hide off topic post
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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Message 33 of 51 (481824)
09-12-2008 8:29 PM
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Anyone read the new comments made by Palin about going to war with Russia? Seriously. Crazy talk. Even the idea of sanctions is pretty insane. Removing hydrocarbons from the market from that large of a source will instantly send the US into a deep recession. McCain should have picked Romney for economics. Palin is a joke when it comes to money.
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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Message 37 of 51 (481832)
09-12-2008 9:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 34 by Buzsaw
09-12-2008 8:55 PM
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Re: Palin With America And Americans
Because for America to succeed in a globalized economy we need to be the best at research and design and intellectual creation. Creationism and Intelligent Design teach thinking that is directly contrary to the methods of thinking we need as a country to thrive. Therefore they pose a problem to our quality of life, GDP and status in the world over the long term. If the US, or frankly any developed country wants to maintain it's level of wealth, it has to move away from labor intensive manufacturing and into intellectual services and R&D. This is an issue of America's future economy.
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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Message 49 of 51 (481972)
09-13-2008 6:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 46 by Buzsaw
09-13-2008 2:36 PM
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Re: Palin With America And Americans
It's a simple fact of matter that if you increase spending and jobs, as well as increase direct payments to your voters, you'll earn their votes. Palin increased the check that Alaskans get every year by a considerable margin and the budget has increased a full 3rd. Palin is no fiscal conservative, neither is McCain 2008, nor is Obama or Biden. Explain to me why we should elect someone who's belief system directly stands in the path of America's economic future.
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