Hi, Alan.
alaninnont writes:
If the definition of life is a spectrum, then we create a problem with the definition of death.
Then so be it.
If that's the reality of it, why would you want the definition to reflect anything else?
Incidentally, I completely disagree with you that a spectrum for life makes death an ambiguous term. Death can only be defined in terms of life: so, however you define life, death is simply the cessation of it. So, death always adapts neatly to any definition of life that you could possibly care to conceive.
Further, the dichotomy of life and
death is not the same as the dichotomy of life and
non-life. Rocks and roadkill are two entirely different classes of things in regards to the definition of life.
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alaninnont writes:
When is a fetus considered alive? This would help us make decisions about the abortion issue.
The use of alive in this context is very different from the use of life in the context of the biological sciences. The human embryo fits every biological definition of life that I have ever heard, as do the human sperm and egg.
In the context of the abortion debate, the question isn’t about when the fetus fits the definition of life, but about when it is sufficiently human to be granted the same rights that humans have. (They made a very similar mistake in the movie
Short Circuit, constantly saying that the robot, Number Five, was alive, when what they really meant was that Number Five was self-aware.)
It is impossible to come up with a single definition of life such that abiogenesis, the Bread of Life, anti-abortionism and Number Five is alive will all be satisfied.
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alaninnont writes:
We need definitions to discuss and make decisions.
I repeat my original statement:
Bluejay, post #16, writes:
Only if there's a relevant, natural reason to define a specific group of things should we be attempting to define it.
There is absolutely no legitimate need for
any definition that does not conform to reality, so, definitions
must reflect the way things actually are. If the way things actually are is that life is only discernible as a spectrum of increasing chemical interconnectedness, then, as I have grown fond of saying,
So be it.
-Bluejay/Mantis/Thylacosmilus
Darwin loves you.