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bluescat48
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Message 39 of 112 (529765)
10-10-2009 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Calypsis4
10-10-2009 10:17 AM


Re: Serious subjects
Coyote, you blew it. I will say again what I said last night: we are talking about the evidence for the most important event in the history of mankind (the death of Christ on the cross)
Maybe for Christians but not for Jews, Muslems, Buddhists, Hindus, Confucianists Taoists Shintoists, animists, atheists or those holding any other belief. There is not even a total belief , even among Christians, as to when your alleged savior was crucified.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 98 of 112 (533127)
10-29-2009 12:12 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by kbertsche
10-28-2009 5:25 PM


Re: Lunar Eclipse
Doig's Biblical Chronology writes:
The color of the moon can take on the appearance of blood during a lunar eclipse, and this has been suggested for the later part of the prophecy.13 A lunar eclipse did occur on April 3, 33 CE, the day proposed for the crucifixion of Jesus. However, until recently the eclipse had been calculated to have been finished by the time the moon rose at Jerusalem. With revised computer dating it has now been calculated that a partial lunar eclipse was briefly visible at moon rise on that Friday in 33 CE. The eclipse began at 3:40 PM and reached a maximum of 60% coverage by 5:15 PM. However, the moon was below the horizon at Jerusalem until about 6:20 PM. At moon rise about 20% of the eclipse remained, possibly to appear as red in the eclipse area. The remaining eclipse was finished a half hour later, by 6:50 PM. This is suggested as the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy.
Although no lunar eclipse was visible from Jerusalem in any other year suggested for the crucifixion, the eclipse in 33 CE is not likely to be significant to the search for the date of the crucifixion. Whether Peter spoke the words of Joel because they had recently been fulfilled, or whether the fulfillment is yet future is far from certain. Whether the brief partial eclipse could actually be seen from Jerusalem will require independent verification. Whether the eclipse was actually the color of blood is also uncertain. If the corner of the moon did appear as blood, could it have been interpreted as the intended fulfillment of Joel's prophecy? Although an interesting approach, such uncertainty cannot be the basis for accepting the crucifixion of Jesus in 33 CE.
The above shows the points of the eclipse of 3 Apr 33 CE
This occurred after sun set and according to Jewish Law the remains had to be removed from the cross before sunset on Friday since sunset started Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath and the eclipse occurred after sunset.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 112 of 112 (533635)
11-02-2009 12:32 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by kbertsche
10-29-2009 11:20 AM


Re: Lunar Eclipse
Yes, your quote and comments agree with the the claims of Humphreys and Waddington.
Yes, only I hadn't seen your post when I posted mine.
Edited by bluescat48, : erased quote

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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