Buzsaw writes:
ZenMonkey writes:
Am I understanding this correctly? This planet - this entire universe, it seems - was changed so radically and completely less than 10,000 years ago that there's absolutely no traces of this change actually happening?
According to the Biblical record, it is not known how long days 1 through 5 were. They could have been a very long time or relatively short. Not given. The record says the Holy Spirit moved/worked on the waters etc, i.e did whatever work needed to be done on each day. Light was applied by the HS at just the right amount to evaporate the waters below enough to form a canopy atmosphere. Again, not given as to how long.
And so on from there.
You're missing the point that I'm trying to make, Buz. Your claim appears to be that the world - this planet - was somehow uncountably different pre-Flood. I don't believe that you dispute the standard Biblical reading that the Flood happened somewhere about 4000 to 6000 years ago. I'm not interested here in how far back the history of the universe goes before that. I'm simply looking at your assertion that - whatever the world was like before the Flood - as a result of the Flood the world went through cataclysmic changes. Not just new seas or new continents or mountains much higher than mountains had ever been before, but more drastic changes such as the loss of the "vapor canopy" and major alterations in the atmosphere.
In fact, if I understand you, your claim is that even things like radiometric dating are unreliable because of how much the Flood affected the world. If you mean that atomic decay rates were affected, that means major changes in the nature of matter itself. Regardless, what I was pointing out was that, if what you're saying is true, somehow this abrupt, world-altering event was so transforming that it appears to have left no traces of it ever happening. Whether from archeology, geology, physics, astronomy, or any other discipline, any physical evidence that you care to examine actually demonstrates no abrupt change of that nature anywhere in the date range that you're looking at. I would even dare to say that there is no evidence anywhere of the laws of physics suddenly shifting at any time in the measurable past. There is just nothing there to mark this claimed huge event. There is only measurable evidence, from many disciplines, showing a verifiable, continuous history going back for millions and billions of years.
Most of what you claim is unknowable is actually very understandable and knowable, Buz. The universe is a fascinating place. I really am sorry that much of what you appear to believe about it is flatly contradicted by the facts. But it is. Your suppositions and musings have no basis other than your reading of scripture and your imagination.
Or, as Willow (from Buffy the Vampire Slayer) once said: "You're just making up made up things."
I have no time for lies and fantasy, and neither should you. Enjoy or die.
-John Lydon