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Hyroglyphx
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Message 45 of 68 (547887)
02-23-2010 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by achristian1985
02-23-2010 3:59 PM


Re: Rule #6
1. The Bible indicates that fallen angels live in the Earth's atmosphere.
The bible doesn't say anything about fallen angels living in the "atmosphere." It says that these fallen angels lived among men, copulated with women, and sired Nephilim. Please substantiate your claim, biblically.
2. Atmospheric and near-space radars only show UFO's in the Earth's atmosphere, not outside it.
Being that UFO literally means "UNIDENTIFIED flying object," I won't argue that point.
3. Bible says only one nation on Earth is NOT under Satan's authority: Israel.
You don't even know your own bible. Israel is a cursed nation for their apostate condition which, according to the bible, will only realize the error of their ways during the 2nd Coming of Christ.
4. Therefore (if UFO's are the physical manifestations of angels & NOT extraterrestrial), there should be a direct reflection of warfare involving Israel; and UFO activity.
And since there is not what does that mean to you?
5. There is.
Ah, so Israel and UFO's do battle?
I assume you have evidence of this fantastic story about demon angels flying around all over the earth and conducting warfare with or against Israel?
Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 47 of 68 (547896)
02-23-2010 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by achristian1985
02-23-2010 5:10 PM


Re: Rule #6
1. Daniel: "Michael your (Israel's) prince". Regardless of their condition.
What does the archangel Michael have to do with UFO's? Are you saying that Michael flies all around Israel fighting demons?
2. "the principalities of the air".
Like I said, there is no scripture claiming that fallen angels live in the atmosphere. Please source this brief and obscure passage.
3. Demons and angels are not the same thing, two entirely different (Greek) words are used when refferring to them.
There is no such description for demons until the New Testament, which barely begins to describe what they are and where they come from. However, it is routine that Christians make assumptions about what Nephilim are. All we know is that the name means "Fallen ones," and that they allegedly spawned giants. That literally is the extent of the description.
4. Correlation is between warfare involving Israel (and Arabs); and UFO activity- not UFOs battling Israel.
And I'm asking what correlation exists between warfare involving Israel and UFO activity? What evidence do you have of
1. UFO activity in Israel and
2. That such UFO activity is inextricably linked to "warfare?"
5. You don't even know the difference between demons and angels. Who is ignorant of the Bible?
Oh, well, Mr. Bible Scholar, then by all means explain the difference to me and back it up through scripture.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 52 of 68 (547909)
02-23-2010 8:54 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Rahvin
02-23-2010 7:47 PM


Re: Are UFOnauts ET's, or something else?
it is utterly worthless garbage.
So much so that I'm astonished that we even fed the troll. It's just flat out stupid. I'm fairly confident the troll will slither away in to obscurity never to be heard from again.
Edited by Hyroglyphx, : double typed

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 56 of 68 (548386)
02-27-2010 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by achristian1985
02-27-2010 1:35 AM


Re: Are UFOnauts ET's, or something else?
"Profanity is the first resort of the illiterate"- Mark Twain
Sorry you have such a limited vocabulary.
I'm sorry you consider "troll" profanity. To think that along with your bizarre X-files beliefs, you must live a very sheltered existence. It is funny that you say I have a limited vocabulary, yet you write with such brevity no one seems to know exactly what you're getting at. It's either so brief no one can get anything out of it, or it's a string of pure nonsense.
What is this supposed to tell me if I can't access the text? Why don't you just come out and say what you want to say and stop being cryptic.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 62 of 68 (548422)
02-27-2010 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by achristian1985
02-27-2010 3:21 PM


There was a man named Noah, who built an ark. His building of the ark, and his entering into it, delivered him from the flood.
Two thousand years ago another man- the last Adam- stated that He would build His church and that if we let Him, He would make us the materials for this.
The flood is coming. It’s time to find and enter the lifeboat. There is no more time to argue about icebergs, or plumbing, or to compare staterooms.
There is no credible evidence to suggest that Noah and his small family lived through a global flood. There is only evidence, both historically and geologically, that a large, centralized deluge flooded portions of Mesopotamia and Western Asia.
Throughout the centuries we've heard that there is going to be an apocalypse. Everyone has been wrong, including Jesus' first-generation followers who thought very clearly that the End Times would be in their generation.
What evidence is there that would insinuate that we're facing "another flood?" I don't even know if you are euphemistically speaking about a flood since God clearly said that he would never again flood the earth in Genesis.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 63 of 68 (548424)
02-27-2010 4:07 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by slevesque
02-27-2010 3:31 PM


He says before becoming a christian he was a big UFO fanatics, even going around and doing work for UFO-searching groups etc.
That explains a lot. It's a matter of wanting things to be true versus the way they really are.
He came to christianity because he noticed that in there was a recurrent theme in all the abductee stories he was getting from a lot of people. Christians were almost never abducted and amongst those that did get abducted, if they happened to say 'Jesus' during the experience it would stop.
And do you believe this?

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 68 of 68 (548569)
02-28-2010 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by achristian1985
02-27-2010 6:55 PM


Re: NOT!
It didn't take Noah over 100 years to build the ark. It took that long for him to make sure everyone of his generation heard the warning- so that they would be without excuse.
No where in the bible does it say that. This is completely invented from old tradition.
Bye, got a church/ark to help build, so this age can be wrapped up.
Alright, see you in the retirement home when you're still here wondering why you're still here
We can both hang out in our wheelchairs staring at the night sky looking for flying angels with the X-files theme song in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDZBgHBHQT8
Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given.

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