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Omnivorous
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Message 3 of 68 (324487)
06-21-2006 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by anglagard
06-21-2006 3:21 PM


My question is, does anyone here subscribe to the idea that UFOs are spaceships and/or we have been, or are now, being visited by aliens from another planet, and if so, does it have anything to do with your religious beliefs?
I'm an agnostic on both issues on evidentiary grounds.
I am amused by the supposed extraterrestial catch-and-release policy...but hell, I'd go.
The fundamental link between religion and UFO sightings and alien abduction reports, I think, is the greater presence of scientific possibility in human minds. Since religion is no longer the final arbiter of reality for many, extraordinary experiences are more likely now to be interpreted as strange events in this naturalistic world rather than visitations from a another, supernatural world.
Paul would probably have his orifices probed by willowy aliens if he had his roadside seizure today.

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Omnivorous
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Message 15 of 68 (324844)
06-22-2006 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by iano
06-22-2006 7:24 AM


You say Genesis, I say genesis...
I think you believe purely based on faith.
Everywhere you go, there you are...
We do not even know if life arose here in order to begin to suppose chances of it arising anywhere else.
Your surprise me, iano: Do you not believe that God created life on this planet? It seems fair to say that life arose here, whether it was called forth by God, emerged from the burgeoning chemical complexity, or hatched from alien pods.
Did you have a theory about life being divinely created somewhere off-planet and then delivered?

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Omnivorous
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Message 17 of 68 (324944)
06-22-2006 3:23 PM
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06-22-2006 12:52 PM


Re: You say Genesis, I say genesis...
iano writes:
Omni writes:
Everywhere you go, there you are...
You mean like this?
No, like this:
7 Where can I go from my Spirit?
Where can I flee from my presence?
8 If I go up to the heavens, I am there;
if I make my bed in the depths, [a] I am there.
9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea....."
There you are. Dude.

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Message 20 of 68 (325097)
06-22-2006 11:43 PM
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06-22-2006 11:41 PM


I think we have utterly missed the mark...
Yep.

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Message 38 of 68 (325701)
06-24-2006 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Larni
06-24-2006 1:52 PM


Re: brain malfunctions
Whe I did my Psych degree we looked at many different forms of atypical brain function, cut the corpus callosum and the two hemisphers can't really communicate (there are several minor bridges btween the hemisphers) and you can get Alien Hand Syndrome (which is fascinating!).
I read an account of a study in which such subjects attempted to draw a named object, struggled--and the alien hand took the pencil away and drew the object, all without the subject's awareness.
On even stranger territory near the hominid UFO front, users of DMT (an incredibly potent hallucinogen) report observing odd forms of apparently intelligent life--some hominid, some bounching spheres--who often seem to be studying the user a la UFO abduction.
A subset of DMT users insist that these are actually extradimensional life forms attempting to communicate.
We are the aliens.

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