UFOs, Religion, and Skepticism

I notice that a while back someone posted that Roswell was a government coverup. Not sure what they meant but I personally have met and know some of the people involved in debunking the claim the Roswell Incident had anything to do with little gray aliens from outer space.I have also noticed that some religions seem very comfortable with the idea of space aliens visiting Earth, most directly, but not exclusively, Scientology and Raelianism. There is even a webpage outlining some kind of relationship between alien visitations and Ron Wyatt (thanks for the humor Arachnophilia).My question is, does anyone here subscribe to the idea that UFOs are spaceships and/or we have been, or are now, being visited by aliens from another planet, and if so, does it have anything to do with your religious beliefs?Obviously Coffeehouse for maximum participation.

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For every solution there are costs incurred that must be taken into account which leads to another problem. Who builds the thing that will take you away from the planet to travel in space? Each person who is working on the project must be compensated and have the incentive necessary to send people on basically a one way trip, since even at the speed of light the effects of relativity will mean that the time dilation they experience will likely mean they never return to the planet they left in any reasonable time frame.

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Any trip from here would obviously be one-way. It would obviously require a ship that could independently sustain human and other life for at least hundreds of years as any thought of approaching the speed of light or beyond is truly beyond present-day physics. Such a ship would be very large and hard to move in order to accomodate a much larger population than Biosphere II, who I understand were on the verge of killing each other before the termination of the experiment. A different way of looking at the problem may be through, dare I say, human evolution. Subsequent generations appear to be content to sit before monitors playing video games, posting to various forums, and engaging in chat, rather than enjoying the wonders of nature. As to time dilation, it is a problem that may be viewed in two directions. Supposedly, if telomeres could be stopped from shrinking with age, humans could live 1000 years.Hundreds of years of video games may be considered paradise by some. Wait until holodecks for bliss (not guaranteed to be guilt free)

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Greys and all types of little green men aliens are concidered to be the modern names for leprchauns and elves and such like.

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Strange how all these alien visitations are by what one would broadly classify as homonids based upon the various descriptions. To me that alone is strong evidence the interpretation is incorrect. The only way one could get a near-human alien form of life is to have a virtually identical history and evolution. The lack of imagination on the part of the adherents of present-day UFO/Alien theology may be related to a lack of normal human skepticism and a relatively high disdain for science.

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I can't source this but I recall hearing that 'Flying Saucers' were not seen untill Hollywood started churning out sci fi such as 'The Day The Earth Stood Still'.

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The first time the term flying saucer was used, to my knowledge was in the Mt. Ranier incident on June 24, 1947. The Roswell incident occured in the first week of July 1947. Not long after Hollywood jumped on the bandwagon.Hollywood and UFOs go way back. For example I never heard about the Roswell incident having aliens in the debris until the movie Hangar 18 (filmed in Big Spring) was made. Suddenly the movie plot became the mythology.

It amazes me how this thread has developed in to what it has become.I remember reading Kant as a teen concerning the difference between the beautiful and the sublime.I sure never expected to later read about the difference between 'little green men' and 'demonic presences.'To each their own.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

You sure seem to want to believe in everything except science, yeah met your type many times.Also, since we are discussing critical thinking, have you ever considered using a library? They loan books for free, and you can take my word for it, I happen to be the college dean of a few myself.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

Another one bites the dust.Oh BTW did you know Brian May, lead guitarist for Queen has a doctorate in Astrophysics?Alas, we do not know his opinion concerning the connection between the 'little greens' the 'grays' the 'Victorian faeries' bizarre Biblical interpretation, and some semblance of reality.But as he is an astrophysicist, even more than as a musician, I have my best guess.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen