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subbie
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Message 16 of 121 (582666)
09-22-2010 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Artemis Entreri
09-22-2010 3:55 PM


I respond to your Jefferson with this:
quote:
To talk of immaterial existences is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, god, are immaterial, is to say they are nothings, or that there is no god, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise: but I believe I am supported in my creed of materialism by Locke, Tracy, and Stewart. At what age of the Christian church this heresy of immaterialism, this masked atheism, crept in, I do not know. But heresy it certainly is.
And, of course, the one in my signature, which relates to the trinity.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 17 of 121 (582673)
09-22-2010 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by ringo
09-21-2010 11:25 AM


Hi, Ringo.
ringo writes:
"Religions die when they are proved to be true. Science is the record of dead religions." -- Oscar Wilde
I don't get it.

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)
Darwin loves you.

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dwise1
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Message 18 of 121 (582675)
09-22-2010 6:36 PM
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09-22-2010 6:29 PM


It appears to be the same logic as applied by Douglas Adams regarding the babel fish (my emphasis added):
quote:
The Babel fish is small, yellow, leech-like, and is a universal translator which simultaneously translates from one spoken language to another. It takes the brainwaves of the other body and what they are thinking then transmits the thoughts to the speech centers of the hosts brain, the speech heard by the ear decodes the brainwave matrix. When inserted into the ear, its nutrition processes convert sound waves into brain waves, neatly crossing the language divide between any species.
Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.[1] Arthur Dent commented only 'Eurgh!' when first inserting the fish into his ear. It enabled him to understand Vogon Poetry - not necessarily a good thing.
The book points out that the Babel fish could not possibly have developed naturally, and therefore proves the existence of God. However, it is argued this proves the nonexistence of god as proof denies faith, and without faith, god is nothing. "'My, that was easy', says man, and goes on to prove that black is white, and gets killed on the next zebra crossing.

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Message 19 of 121 (582676)
09-22-2010 6:36 PM
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09-22-2010 6:29 PM


I don't get it.
Truth denies faith and without faith religions die.
Apologies to Douglas Adams.

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Message 20 of 121 (582677)
09-22-2010 6:41 PM
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09-22-2010 6:29 PM


I actually picked it because I liked the sound of it. Style over content.

"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

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Theodoric
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Message 21 of 121 (582679)
09-22-2010 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Artemis Entreri
09-22-2010 3:55 PM


The actual quote is a little bit different. The gist is the same, but I am a stickler for historical accuracy.
quote:
I read no newspaper now but Ritchie’s, and in that chiefly the advertisements, for they contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper.
Source

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Blue Jay
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Message 22 of 121 (582681)
09-22-2010 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by dwise1
09-22-2010 6:36 PM


Hi, Dwise.
Since this is a thread about quotes, I figured it would be appropriate to provide the exact quote from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
quote:
The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)
Darwin loves you.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 23 of 121 (582793)
09-23-2010 2:50 PM


"Is it not strange that the descendants of those pilgrim fathers who Crossed the Atlantic to preserve their own freedom of opinion, have always proved themselves intolerant of the Spiritual liberty of others?
" -- General Robert E. Lee

  
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Message 24 of 121 (582806)
09-23-2010 3:30 PM


"Our ignorance is God; what we know is science."
-Robert G. Ingersoll

  
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Message 25 of 121 (582808)
09-23-2010 3:33 PM


"I quite agree with you. And the moral of that is: Be what you would seem to be, or if you'd like it put more simply: Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise." -- The Duchess

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

  
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Message 26 of 121 (582824)
09-23-2010 4:07 PM


I can’t explain myself, I’m afraid, Sir, because I’m not myself, you see. -Alice

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Dr Adequate
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Message 27 of 121 (582838)
09-23-2010 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Artemis Entreri
09-22-2010 3:55 PM


I don't really see your point in argueing a different take on a quote that is well over 700 years old ...
I didn't realize there was statute of limitations on being silly.
Would it be OK for me to comment on it if it had been written yesterday?

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Straggler
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Message 28 of 121 (582843)
09-23-2010 4:46 PM


Stephen Colbert writes:
"And though I am a committed Christian, I believe that everyone has the right to their own religion, be you Hindu, Jewish or Muslim. I believe there are infinite paths to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior."
George Washington writes:
"The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy."

  
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Message 29 of 121 (582844)
09-23-2010 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Blue Jay
09-22-2010 7:25 PM


Douglas Adams Quote
Dougie Adams writes:
There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

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dwise1
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Message 30 of 121 (582854)
09-23-2010 5:10 PM
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09-23-2010 4:48 PM


Re: Douglas Adams Quote
That one came immediately to mind the moment I saw the sub-title.
To which I add:
Robert Colbert on NPR writes:
It is a well-known fact that reality has a definite liberal bias.
Edited by dwise1, : No reason given.

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