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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
{Admin, I hope you don't think my two-questioned opening topic is too much. I'd really like to present both questions at the same time. In Coffee House.}
I found the scientific part of the recent thread, "Time traveler caught on film in 1920?" interesting. Continuing in a much less serious time-travel topic . . . I generally enjoy time-travel movies. I don't have a problem suspending my skeptical beliefs if there are no glaring loopholes. Some time-travel films I especially like are: a. "Planet of the Apes" original (it's always about primates with me, isn't it?). b. "Time After Time", I always enjoy "the moment" when the character (in this example, Malcolm McDowell) first appears in another time and he/she is momentarily culture-shocked. Star Trek IV — The Voyage Home has some of these moments (Spock on the metro bus). A pity Tom Hank's "Cast Away" movie didn't include these moments when he first gets back to civilization, although this really wasn't a time travel movie and he was only "gone" for a few years.) c. "The Final Countdown". Really liked it, except the ending was a complete cop-out. (Why couldn't they show the lone US carrier take down the entire military army of WWII's Japan) d. "Christmas Carol" 1951, with Alastair Sim. 1. Perhaps there are some really good time travel movies (including Euro-flicks) that I am unaware of. Forum participants, please name your favorite time travel movie. Please include a sentence or two why, or possibly with a critical thought (what could they have done better? Illogical premises? Loopholes?). But give spoiler alerts when applicable. As a related follow-up question, if you could, what time-period/place would you travel to? These thoughts pop up in my head right now: a. I don't know how to describe where (currently western USA?), but during the Cretaceous Period, to see dinosaurs. A T-rex or two would do. b. Cuzco, Peru, before 1500s, BEFORE Spanish conquistadors arrived. c. N. America, 1930's to see the Three Stooges vaudeville act. d. Roman Empire during Caligula's time (30 AD?) to "witness" a real Roman orgy. (Keep in mind that language is fluid in time, so the word "witness" MAY mean something other than today's definition. ) 2. Forum participants, please state your most wished-for time-travel experience. Edited by dronester, : clarity/brevity Edited by dronester, : No reason given.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
I would want to travel to the future As a history buff, I am more interested in the past. But you piqued my curosity. 1. A million years in the future? I would bet the Earth would be a rather dark cinder by then. I don't have much faith in mankind. Take another look at my present avatar. 2. But maybe a hundred years into the future would be an eyeful. Imagine the medical advances? Imagine how we eventually solved world over-population, war, energy needs, religious nonsense. Or not. 3. I am curious, what percent of the responders to this thread would choose to travel to the future and what percent to the past? I don't know of "The Worthing Saga". Sounds like "Alien" or "Planet of the Apes" because of the cryogenically stored part. Unfortunately, I am a big reader of nearly everything, except novels.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
I'm already traveling to the future and as for the past, been there, done that. Interesting thought. I guess we are all traveling into the future. It just SEEMS like some of us may be stuck in the bronze age.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Perhaps the question of the past vs. future is really pointing to some deeper philosophy. Interesting. When I first considered this topic, it was only for superficial novelty. But after reading through some of the posts, it appears this subject may have more weight than I originally thought. Cool.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Thanks CS. You haven't been posting too much lately, but I knew if you saw this thread you would contribute at least one good movie.
I checked The Time Traveler's Wife via your link. Thanks, the plot sounds good (if there ever was a bad time-travel plot, I haven't heard it!). I will put it on my time-travel-movie list.
I would definately go to the future before I went to the past. The technology would be intriguing. What do you most want to see technology do? Besides bringing back a wooley-mammoth, personally, I am hoping medical-science will have learn't how to graft eagle-eye-genes and mountain-goat-knee-genes to humans in the very near future.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
as for witch movie to recomend the one where woopy goldberg goes back in time in to some medievil era forgot the title and its a bit old woopy goldberg goes back in time in to some medievil era, eh? If there ever was a bad time-travel plot, maybe this one is it! I'll google it, maybe it is better than it sounds.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
All You Zombies. Thanks Dr. A. It seems short enough for me to read it on my lunch break.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Of all the time-travel movies to have not seen, I am embarrassed to say I don't remember ever seeing The Time Machine by H.G.Wells, 1960 The Time Machine (1960) - IMDb. Possibly as a young kid, but I just don't remember. I do remember the Morlocks in photos, but I can't remember the story. Ok, it goes onto my rainy sunday afternoon movie list.
I think you mean "By His Bootstraps. http://www.timetravelreviews.com/...heinlein_bootstraps.html I am hoping the paradoxical conundrums of time-travel will be more expanded in this thread. Participants are talking about time and space impossibilities of time-travel in the newer posts. NeatO. Cool that you sat in a "replica" of the time travel machine. (You didn't touch the little red button, did ya?)
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
It seems we are like-minded Tanypteryx.
Meganeura monyi (27+ inch wingspan)? Wow. Ok, just to see that would be cool enough, but to see that fly. Uber cool! (How could its wings create enough lift? It would SEEM to be a flying impossibility) While were at it, how about any giant flying pterosaur? The pteranodon had a wingspan of 20-25 feet. But I think there were others with 40+ feet wingspans!!! Holy Chrysler! Pterosaur - WikipediaPterosauria
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Thanks Slevesque.
The ''butterfly effect'', The Butterfly Effect (2004) - IMDb Thanks, I never saw this movie all the way through. I became inpatient in the beginning and had a hard time watching it through. Perhaps it is because I am not a big fan of Aston K. Sometimes if you do not like an actor/actress, you really don't give a movie a fair chance. I'll try to give it another chance.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
ringo writes: I think I'd rather visit a wooly mammoth in his own back yard instead of having him wander around in mine. (Jurassic Park was a kind of time-travel movie, wasn't it? That didn't turn out too well. Hee, and thanks for the warning Jeff Goldbloom. Allow me to play, a more youngish, Richard Attenborough . . . Well, we don't know the temperment of wooly mammoths. They COULD be as harmless as their asian cousins. Maybe you would even want each of your children to own one of these docile creatures (as long as the kids promised to clean up after them. Kids take note: Untangling their wooly hides with a dogbrush will take the better part of the weekend). Seriously, . . . In another thread, about a year ago, we touched upon the thought of bringing back extinct animals. Since man's current unyielding encroachment into wildlife's environment, there is hardly room enough for current endangered animals, let alone bringing back extinct ones. However, I don't believe the Siberian plains, where the wooly mammoths lived, to be under man's assault. If true, I wonder how difficult/problematic/un-ethical it would be to bring back herds of mammoth there. OTOH, I suppose time and money could be better spent on other things.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
when [dragonflies] ruled the air there were no other large flying predators. I didn't know that, how interesting! I wonder how common they were in the air? Could you imagine if they flew over land as dense as mosquitoes over a swamp? I am guessing their size would make them less agile than smaller flying insects, so would they be more apt to collide with eachother?
Each wing can move independent of the others. In modern dragonflies the forewings create turbulence that the hindwings use to gain extra lift. And what would these super-sized dragonflies, in flight, sound like? I am guessing with such big wings, the wing beats per minute would be a lot fewer, so it might sound like a 60 second ground hum rather than a high frequency of a female mosquito?
The dinosaurs catch our imagination because of their size and the incredible length of time they were around Dinos still capture my imagination. Last month, I traveled to the Gobi desert in Mongolia where dino fossils have been excavated. I believe Mongolia's travel industry could explode if they only could create a type of Jurrasic Park fossil park. But Mongolia is many, many years away from creating a sustaining infrastructure. BTW, unsurprisingly, the capital has a great dino fossil collection at its history museum. Saw many dinos I never knew existed. But like you said, there are undoubtedly millions of dino fossils we haven't yet uncovered. Back to the topic of time-travel: Never heard of "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court", by Mark Twain. Was this a tongue-in-cheek story or somewhat serious?
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Thanks for the movie list WK.
I saw "12 Monkeys", I liked. Didn't see "Primer". Will put on my list. "Triangle", Triangle (2009) - IMDb, even with your reservations, it might be interesting.
A lot of time travel movies seem to prefer closed loops as a way to ignore any complex issues of dealing with paradoxes. I am guessing time-travel movies in particular have inherent scientific loopholes in their storylines that can't usually be adequately fixed. For the general non-scientific public, I suppose it doesn't matter. But, someone on the forum once stated that he couldn't watch sci-fi movies because they fail to be scientifically plausible. This implausibility ruins their suspension of disbelief. I understand that way of thinking, however, . . . It seems I can compartmentalize these things. E.g., I don't believe in ghosts, but I still had a fun/interesting time at a recent Halloween "historical" ghost walk.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Donnie Darko is often rated highly as a good time-travel movie. I haven't seen it, but it will go on my DEFINITE-list-of-movies-to-see.
(From what I heard, in Costner's "The Postman" film, time nearly STANDS STILL. From the time it takes for the light proton traveling from the film reel to the screen, a typical movie goer would have finished his buttery-flavored popcorn, industrial drum-sized soda, slapped by his much-too-prudish date, and be back in his car driving home)
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind; a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead your next stop, the Twilight Zone.
Rod Serling Yep, I'll agree, Rod Serling was a very good writer. It is unclear just how much of his screenplay drafts of "Planet of the Ape"'s showed up on the silver screen, but the twist ending seemed to be his: Page not found - Rod Serling Memorial Foundation
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