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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: Funny how the only impacting verse is left out here! The flood was a regional flood; the animals mentioned are limited to Noah's domestic household:
quote: Hm. I wonder what 'all thy house' refers to - any clues anyone? I wonder why no wild animals are listed - how about lions, snakes, elephants? Even when many animals are specifically referred to ['Take with you seven of every kind']. I wonder how come those wild animals are still around - can it be this is a regional flood, in an area infamous for such floods - you think? Well, we still have the big issue of ALL THE EARTH BEING COVERED ['I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earthmen and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the airfor I am grieved that I have made them."']. How does one get around that one!? Can it be that there was no Tasmania, London or Krakow at this time? Can it be that had those cities been listed it would imply a fake? Can it be the people of that time never left their villagers all their lives? Can it be that the flood, seeing it covered their town, would look like the whole earth was indeed submerged - why not? Can it be a book mentioning Mount Ararat for the first time, in its correct geographical location, and listing pages of geneologies in a biological thread and using 100% authentic names hailed by every Paleontologist as 100% authentic - can still be guilty of making such a foolish error which today's brilliant minds have so easily negated as myth? Hey - show us another item in this book which is not authentic! Wrong names, wrong dob's, wrong cities, wrong populations, wrong historical items, wrong grammar, wrong alphabeticals, wrong groups, wrong - anything? Anything whatsoeverwhich is incorrect?
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: We've heard of such balony passed ff as credible science. Its not forgotten: 1. For a 100 years the neo archeologists claimed King David was a myth. Then the Tel Dan discovery happened - those archeologists have never recovered from their shame. 2. We've heard how the migration of the Israelites under Joshua never happened in Jerico. The archeologist [a woman; forgot her name], made very authentic sounding claims, even forgetting that the Israelites had indeed established themselves in Canaan and held that land as sovereign for 1000 years. Then she was negated by further archeologists who opened better layers of earth. 3. We heard all the parades of scientists dismissing the entire exodus as myth and that the Israelites were never in Egypt. Then popped up a 3,500 year Egyptian stelle mentioning a war with 'ISRAEL' by name! 4. We saw how both the first and seond Temples of Jerusalem were called Zionist Plots. Then the ground itself spat out a host of relics, coins and scrolls, affirming more than 70% of the Hebrew bible. 5. We heard how the prophetic writings were later written, centuries after the dating of their authors, well after 500 BCE. Then popped up the bits of Scrolls whch predated 600 BCE. Fact: There is no ancient writings on the planet with near equivalent or better evidence than that of the Hebrew bible. Name one? Take your time - no hurry.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
I clearly showed you quoted the text wrong. What's there to prove - aside from your comprehension!?
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: The only stuff proven is the authenticity of that writings, in 100's of examples spread across its verses. It is clear you omitted the only pivotal verse which I pointed out - take responsibility for your errors. Its that simple.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: You never cited anything. The fulcrum verse was left out and not confronted, which was pointed out - and you have not retracted.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
The topic is of a global flood. The Noah story ends in Mount Ararat - which shows only a regional scenario; coupled with the term 'YOUR POSSESSIONS' - this seems conclusive.
Who is being dishonest when cherry picking and avoiding everything relevant and impacting?
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: No sir! Its not the datings but the text's blatant pointer to what is the most logical conclusion, which I posted numerously: this was 'NOT' a global flood according to the text, nor did it relate to ALL the life forms on earth. Such perverse conclusions have two potential reasons: 1. The mis-rep of the Hebrew by European Christianity, which has made such great errors of being totally lost in translation of other examples: translating 'young maiden' as 'virgin' in Isaiah, and calling the earth 6000 years old! The Hebrew bible cannot in anywise be seen as stupid writings except by the most twisted, stupid views. 2. The agenda of those atheists who reject everything in the NT as having zero credibility in reality and in total contrast of the Hebrew writings, but are too cowardly to address that directly, instead attacking the Hebrew bible. My responses are not about datings or a flood - another example of twisted views.
quote: No sir - you have to address your points, not I! The laughable and such large variants of datings only proves the credibility of those you quote: how can anyone even consider their views as having any credibility? Also, a recent dating only exposes the insanity of even conjuring up a global flood scenario. It only affirms my point?
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
The insanity continues with a determination, exposing both responsas butting heads against a brick wall they cannot see.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
LOL! No one wonders how a nation and its writings survived after a "GLOBAL" flood in the same region? No one wonders that something is amiss here? I say, any later reference in ancient writings only affirms this was, as the texts says - a global flood!
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: No, that is not what I am saying. Instead I pointed out, if the legend exists of a global flood, the first logic is it was not a global flood. Check the implications: how long would it take to rebuild the earth and humanity if a global flood occured - how would the legend people ratify such a premise without wondering how they are still around?
quote: Good question. If you check the references one will see these are later Greek responses of the Hebrew writings, being post 300 BCE/Septuagint translation, complete with head bashing legends of deitites - affirming only its total distance from the Hebrew writings. They are probably the source of these legends, which later became embedded in the views of Christianity. It has nothing to do with the Hebrew texts: Europe also ratifies a trinity and divine man as representing the Hebrew version of Monotheism and translating Isaiah to represent the very antithesis of Isaiah, and other such legends. Intelligent, honest retrospection must prevail here, but this appears not possible because of the Greek/Roman based agenda of Europe and the so-called science based atheists! This applies: Its the text, stupid. The Hebrew writings are humanity's most credible ancient writings humanity possesses.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3697 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
A geolist's first obligation is textual comprehension. This requires grammatical prowess, especially taking the only open coherent path. The texts in the Noah story clearly states this event is a regional flood, limited to Noah's 'household and possessions'; thus no wild animals are seen in the list [not a typo!]; the verses describing all the earth and mountain tops submerged is both authentic and credible: it is how the flood would appeared to people of this region. The text is describing an ancient period when people never left their villages throughout their lives; when Tasmania and New York yet never existed.
The writings' credibility cannot be in doubt. When examined, we find all the math correct [the dimensions of the boat]; the geo-historical references are amazingly accurate [Mount Ararat is listed in its correct location for the first time!]; and the advanced alphabetical wiritings, seen for the first time, are transcendent. The 'NAMES' listed in the Noah geneology is proven as authentic of its period. Get real!
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