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Originally posted by quicksink:
and einstein's principle that the speed of time is relative to the observer can be used in my argument- if there was no observer, than there was no time. time was moving at an infinite pace because nobody could define its speed.

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First this is wrong Einstein had c constant in all inertial reference frames, i.e if you measure c standing still or moving you will always get the same answer....

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Originally posted by quicksink:
if the laws of physics were created at the moment of the big bang, wouldn't that mean that all time was decided from that point forward? if you think about it, the laws of physics have total control over every inanimate object- they move it- they make it- they destroy it.

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You have unfortunately failed to take into account this wee little thing called Heisenburgs uncertainty principle....Your view is one commonly put forwad by the empiricists of the 19th century who believed that witha proper derivation of all the laws and proper observations of the matter they acted on the future states of the system could be calculated.....It was all looking rosy until quantum mechanics came along and put an inherant limit on our knowledge.....

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Originally posted by quicksink:
i guess my theory is wrong... oh well- at least i was thinking out of the box

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BTW- i have now done research on the special theory of relativity and understand it completely.

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I doubt that you understand it completely after a (necessarily) less than 1/2 hour study of the subject...Also its only one special case of general relativity which is a whole lot more interesting....

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[This message has been edited by joz, 03-09-2002]