I don't understand...
Ezekiel 37:25 and Genesis 13:14 seem to say that the Jews will get Israel forever, while Amos 9:14 contradicts this by stating that they will be 'plucked up out of their land'. Which of these are the true prophecies?
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Then you look up recent history and find that the long time relatively desolate land has been irrigated, blooming and that Israel is the only nation in that region of the world that actually exports produce. You find that there's been numerous wars as all of the large Islamic nations have tried to knock out Israel, etc, etc.
recent history shows me a politically engineered state created to mitigate religious conflicts between the Jews and the Arabs, beginning with the Peel Commission of 1937 - the first suggestion from the then dominant British for a two state solution. After WWII and the creation of Israel as a separate state, the US got involved an the area and turned Israel into a defacto military base.
Since then, the tiny nation of Israel defends itself against all odds by the enthusiastic flexing of a military that costs the US almost
2 Billion dollars a year to fund, dwarfing its opposition.
The reason I bring all of this up is that, go figure - I don't find any of this unusual and here's why...
With a strong cultural and religious tradition closely tied to their ethnicity and status as the 'Chosen People', the Jews would naturally preserve their identity in this manner. Mostly, this is normal and universal cultural/social behaviour -
The Romani people have managed this for up to 3000 years without even the bonding element of a historical homeland or exclusive religion.
If you add to this some good old fashioned religious persecution from the offspring of Judaism - Christianity and Islam - you have the formula to create an armour-plated culture resistant to outside forces. Xenophobia even.
Remember that it was (partly)
Jewish Terrorism which led to the creation of the modern State of Israel. As one of the core wishes of the Jewish culture was to return to the holy land, it is hardly surprising that there was a consistent effort to make this happen after the turmoil and displacement of war. Consider also the consider the horrific details of the time regarding the Jews, which could only strengthen this desire.
While there are a few correct predictions, my research into the history of the bible suggests that at least some of them were written after the fact, which lessens their prophetic nature somewhat. As Coyote pointed out, none are specific enough to be truly credible as individual cases.
Message 77
I'm pretty sure that you'll disagree with me but I don't see any of this as evidence for the powers of prophecy.
I certainly don't see it as evidence for the supernatural. That would require backup from archaeology as a minimum. I have not found any - mostly the opposite or nothing at all.
Still hoping you have more information that you have not shared yet.
Edited by Warthog, : Broken link fix