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sunshaker Member (Idle past 992 days) Posts: 49 From: England Joined: |
Sorry for the link but i have proplems posting this without loseing its structure
12 noble gases?
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Funny.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
pitiful
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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sunshaker Member (Idle past 992 days) Posts: 49 From: England Joined: |
pitiful?
I thought facts don't lie, Show me where this fails. The numbers speak for themselves.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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The numbers speak for themselves. They do, do they? Let me listen to them for a moment. OK, 19 says you're an idiot, 35 says that you're wrong, and all the even numbers less than or equal to 498 say that you don't know what you're talking about. I must go, I have 2,395,673 on the other line. Something about how you're completely ignorant of chemistry.
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sunshaker Member (Idle past 992 days) Posts: 49 From: England Joined: |
Parden dr inadequate,
perhaps some of us know better than others, who are unable to think without insults. what and where and why do you not agree with? Or perhaps it is just to far passed your "intellect" to understand.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3742 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
sunshaker writes:
XENON is wrong. HELIUM 2 NEON 2,8 ARGON 2,8,8 KRYPTON 2,8,18,8 XENON 2,8,18,8,8 RADON 2,8,18,32,18,8 UNUNOCTIUM 2,8,18,32,32,18,8 8 2,8,18,32,32,18,18,8 9 2,8,18,18,32,32,18,18,8 10 2,8,8,18,18,32,32,18,18,8 11 2,8,8,18,18,32,32,18,18,8,8 12 2,8,8,18,18,32,32,18,18,8,8,2 It is 2, 8, 18, 18, 8 Where did the extra '18' come from in '8', '9', '10', '11' and '12'? Where did the extra '8's come from in '9', '10', '11' and '12'? And your extrapolation is wrong.To extend the pattern as you are trying to do, it would look like: RADON 2,8,18,32,18,8 UNUNOCTIUM 2,8,18,32,32,18,8 8 2,8,18,32,32,32,18,8 9 2,8,18,32,32,32,32,18,8 10 2,8,18,32,32,32,32,32,18,8 11 2,8,18,32,32,32,32,32,32,18,8 12 2,8,18,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,18,8So, using your logic, there is no limit to the number of possible nobel gases. 13 2,8,18,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,18,8 14 2,8,18,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,18,8 15 2,8,18,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,18,8 16 2,8,18,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,18,8But your extrapolation is based solely on Radon and Ununoctium. It could just as easily be: RADON 2,8,18,32,18,8 UNUNOCTIUM 2,8,18,32,32,18,8 8 2,8,18,32,50,32,18,8 9 2,8,18,32,50,50,32,18,8 10 2,8,18,32,50,72,50,32,18,8 Edited by Panda, : No reason given. Edited by Panda, : No reason given."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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sunshaker Member (Idle past 992 days) Posts: 49 From: England Joined: |
Yes i missed putting a 1 in xenon thank you for pointing it out.
No you cannot continue passed 12. Where do you get your 50s 72s from,? 12 completes, you cannot just make numbers up. THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT MADE UP, THEY ARE PART OF THE SEQUENCE. The sequence ends at 12.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3742 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
sunshaker writes:
Why not?
No you cannot continue passed 12. sunshaker writes:
The same place the 32s came from. Where do you get your 50s 72s from,?It is a simple incremental progression. sunshaker writes:
But you did: 12 completes, you cannot just make numbers up.quote: sunshaker writes:
Then where did your extra numbers come from? THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT MADE UP, THEY ARE PART OF THE SEQUENCE. Your sequence is faulty.I showed that in some detail. sunshaker writes:
Yes, your faulty sequence ends at 12. The sequence ends at 12.But other valid sequences continue passed 12. "There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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sunshaker Member (Idle past 992 days) Posts: 49 From: England Joined: |
If you also notice that these elements holds all together,
Two electrons at each a point of a triangle that contains all.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Questions for you, sunshaker:
how many electrons fill an s suborbital?How many in a p? A d? An f? a g? Hint: the answers add to a number larger than 32. You are talking nonsense.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3742 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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sunshaker writes:
Since you are unable to answer any questions or justify your claims, I see little point in continuing. If you also notice that these elements holds all together,Two electrons at each a point of a triangle that contains all. I second Theodoric's response: pitiful. Edited by Panda, : No reason given."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 612 days) Posts: 921 Joined:
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I don't think he knows anything about suborbitals or the quantum mechanics reasoning behind the number of electrons in each orbital.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3849 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
12 noble gases
I like the idea but it violated that Quantum Rule that allows 2n^2 electrons per orbit. When you assume we could discover an 8Th shell, the total number of electrons in that shell would be 2(8)^2 = 128 electrons. Your scheme shows that orbit eight is holding only 18 electrons before a 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th shell opens. And, if you had a point, the more than seven (7) Noble Gases could exist, the Electron Configuration Code which addresses each electron in an Atom whould apparently open a 7d sub-orbital before and eigth shell appeared. Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
i will bet a big bottle of bad vodka that you are correct about that......
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