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petrophysics1 Inactive Member
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{This message is from message 281 of the "Introduction To Geology" topic. I thought that it deserved to be and would be best as its own topic. - Adminnemooseus}
So here is a rather good quiz that you should do well on if you have read and understand what Dr.A has written here. 19 topics with 10 questions each about geology. I regard a test/quiz not as a test to see what you know but as a way to point you to what you don't understand so you can find out about it. http://homepage.smc.edu/...richard/rocktest/physical_geology I think this quiz is good and covers a lot of what Dr.A has talked about. It is, from my viewpoint as a working geologist, very simple, but I think if you can get around 70% on the quizes Dr.A has done a good job. What do you think?
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
190 questions.
21 wrong. 89% correct. Some sections were very easy, some sections had a lot of "haven't a clue". Some questions were a bit ambigeous and/or I take issue with the correct answer. Notably, I take issue with #4 of 7)Geologic time - which concerns the "geologic column". Maybe I'll say more later. I kept track of which ones I got wrong. Moose
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Some questions have very little to do with geology or what geology actually is. Some really have more do do with history or philosophy.
A prime example is the first question in the introduction:
Leonardo da Vinci realized that fossils were the remains of once living organisms. A. True B. False Maybe so. Does that qualify as a question about geology or history? Why is it important to know? What did Confucious have to say about fossils? That question and answer really doesn't matter in geology. Maybe it is important for history of geology courses.....but it won't change anything in geology or paleontology. Edited by Pressie, : Changed lots of paragraphs.
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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190 Questions!
Here is a table of contents for people who might want to try an open book approach to the exam. I've included some links to Dr. Adequate's text.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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petrophysics1 Inactive Member |
Pressie,
Perhaps you would enjoy this short article by Univ. California Museum of Paleontology on Leonardo Da Vinci. His remarks about the flood and basic observations about geology are very close to what you we trying to get across to Faith earlier today. Maybe Leonardo would have had more luck. I'm sure you know who discovered x-rays, radium, that F=ma, or who the volt, and ampere were named after. Is Darwin mentioned in begining biology textbooks? I mean, who cares what he said? BTW I didn't make this test but if it was in the text it's fair game on a quiz. Would this be better? Here are 20 minerals please outline for me the steps, simple tests, observations and descriptions you would follow to indentify them yourself. (However that is not covered in the course so, I guess all anyone knows is to ask a geologist what they are.)
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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Hi petrophysics1
I didn't mean to criticize the whole test, it was quite interesting. However, asking such a question about Leonardo really is not really important. I also found some questions and answers 'a bit ambigeous and/or I take issue with the correct answer' (as a previous poster said). I would love to read that article on Leonardo, but you didn't include the link. You'll never change Faith's mind, no matter how much evidence is show, she'll always ignore everything she doesn't want to hear. It's more for the lurkers who only hear the creationist untruths to start thinking about what actually has been discovered in real life.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
However, asking such a question about Leonardo really is not really important. I see a point to such questions. The history of geology is as important as say the history of models of the atom, some of which don't even work, or the development of physics leading to quantum theory. In most courses on those subjects that I've seen at least some of that stuff is testable. Yes, we could leave the history out of a bare bones course, but why is that necessary here?Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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I was wondering about doing a short history of geology as an appendix. I'm not sure if I'd include Leonardo, though, so far as I know his musings on the subject had no effect on the development of the field, and are of interest only 'cos they show what a clever chap he was, a point which hardly needs belaboring.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
a point which hardly needs belaboring I think Leonardo's musings do attach a reasonably early date (pre 17th century) to some fairly reasonable views about geology, which might be of some use in a Evolution vs Creationism debate. Whatever Leonardo's own religious beliefs may have been, we surely know that his views are not formed out of hatred for the Church. In any case, here is one vote for a 'history of geology appendix.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
In any case, here is one vote for a 'history of geology appendix. I'll look around for some materials. Lyell is quite good up to people before Lyell. And I used to have a great second-hand book called Ever Since The Deluge written by some German guy, but it stopped before the discovery of plate tectonics --- which is probably why it was second-hand. But it was full of good stuff up 'til then, I wish I could lay my hands on it.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 611 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
I was doing very well for the first ten or so subjects and then I noticed the questions began to cover more of geomorphology and hydrology of which I don't know as much as about just yet.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
This is a difficult subject.
Chinese civilizations got their 'Dragons' from fossils they uncovered way before Leonardo or the 17th century. Then they added their take on it such as fire-breathing. It suits Chinese culture. As this is the www, why should Western civilization be preferenced? Also, I don't think the Chinese had any views on the Christian Church before the Christian Churches originated. Maybe just leave it and start with modern geology?
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
As this is the www, why should Western civilization be preferenced? Such a focus would be useful for a reference used by EvC readers. In any event, even if we expand to a more multicultural view, we might still be able to leave out the 'dragons'. And why is leaving out history completely preferable to omitting Chinese history? I don't get that at all. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
I was going to keep going until I got less than 50% but when I had gotten through 3/4 of the sections with only one 50, I decided to finish the quiz. I didn't keep a running tab but I got a surprizing number of 90s. Admittedly, there were a lot of educated guesses and a fair number of wild guesses.
My one peeve is that a lot of questions of the form, "X causes Y," could be interpreted as either, "X can cause Y," or, "Only X can cause Y." All in all, I was surprised at how well I did. I think I'll start my own oil company tomorrow.
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pandion Member (Idle past 3029 days) Posts: 166 From: Houston Joined: |
I scored 50% twice and 100% twice. The rest of my scores were between those. For someone who knows little about geology, I scored 137/53 (72.1%).
Some questions were obvious: like whether older sedimentary layers were above or below younger layers, or whether a pluton incursion into sedimentary layers was older or younger. The technological terminology was beyond me. I didn't do the open book version. Edited by pandion, : No reason given.
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