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Modulous
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Message 31 of 86 (716227)
01-13-2014 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by dronestar
01-13-2014 12:58 PM


So to confirm, you do not agree with Caffiene that tourist and travelers ALL have equal rewarding experiences, okay, check.
Neither said this. Caffeine made a humorous remark that people that call themselves travellers are, to paraphrase, pretentious.
Ringo said that some people may find travelling with a group of others may be more meaningful than seeing a mountain up close, and that the meaning of the experiences are subjective.
a 'traveler' will almost always have a deeper experience climbing Everest than a 'tourist' who will bus to the BOTTOM of Everest
What is a deeper experience?
For instance, most of the time I holiday in Britain. I go camping with a 100 or so friends and family and we play music, sing songs and dance through the night. Is this deeper experience than my honeymoon where we toured central Europe? Is it a deeper experience than my wife's time working in India? What about when I travelled from Atlanta through Alabama to Louisiana and spent time with my family there? If I went to Everest and got frostbite would this be deeper than any of that? How are we quantifying depth?

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Message 33 of 86 (716239)
01-13-2014 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by dronestar
01-13-2014 3:16 PM


hey Mod, nice to see you posting again.
Hiya!
I'm returning to university to study soon, so I might not be posting regular again.
Also - I thought it might amuse you that I applied for a job at the BBC recently. I didn't get it.
That was humorous?
I didn't say it was funny
"Does the SAME THING."
I appreciate that they do different things and have differing experiences. However, what is the 'thing' that caffeine was referring to? 'goes to see a place different from where they live for recreational purpose'. They might go in a different way and do different things when they get there, but they both go and see a place different from where they live for recreation.
Of the five people I described, which one will ordinarily have the deepest experience (however you want to qualify it)?
I appreciate the experiences will be qualitatively different but I'm not sure how one would quantify depth. I'm sure 'travellers' (not people that live in caravans etc) tend to have more interesting (to me) stories to tell, is that how we're measuring it?

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Message 39 of 86 (716282)
01-14-2014 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by dronestar
01-14-2014 11:27 AM


The difference between visiting the base of Everest and the summit of Everest is as different as lightning and a lightning bug.
I don't think that's quite true, but nevertheless, I agree they are different (Maybe the difference between a Tesla Coil and a thunderstorm). However they share some commonalities. It was two such things that caffeine seems to be saying are common to both (eg they both involve travelling to other places)
I don't read him as saying a package holiday to the Algarve is the same as white water rafting in some Amazonian tributary, just that they both involve going somewhere else for fun. Neither the amount of fun, nor the depth of the experience were equalized by his words.
I have to say, your reaction to his words kind of work as verification of the truth behind the jest....
I'm sure 'travellers' (not people that live in caravans etc) tend to have more interesting (to me) stories to tell, is that how we're measuring it?
Why do you think that is probably true?
It's difficult to explain why you have certain tastes. I'll give a singular answer to a complex question: Novelty. There is more 'new' in such tales, or at least more differences between stories. While it was a wonderful experience eating at the UFO restaurant in Bratislava, fundamentally telling it would be telling a story about a restaurant meal at a restaurant with a novel location. I think a story about removing a leech or hiking twenty seven miles to a hospital because a friend had developed a fever have more characteristics of appealing narrative.
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