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Punisher Inactive Member |
Has anyone read his work "Critique of Pure Reason"? I haven't put this in book review forum because I wanted to get evo's opinions regarding his influence. I've read only excerpts thus far.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Found the full text here....
http://www.hkbu.edu.hk/~ppp/cpr/toc.html Give me a while to read it and I`ll get back to you....
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Mister Pamboli Member (Idle past 7606 days) Posts: 634 From: Washington, USA Joined: |
quote: I'm not sure what you're after, but I'll try to answer - Kant touches on issues which relate to the philosophy of science in many places, but his influence is still most strongly felt in ethics and the theory of mathematics. He did have some interesting views on teleology (very roughly, the argument from design), for example that we can use the "design inference", as it would now be called, to study nature to "bring it under principles of observation and research by analogy to the causality that looks to ends, while not pretending to explain it by this means." Kant recognised that the processes of life undoubtedly affected the development of living things, but saw also that the results appeared to meet needs that had not yet arisen, as if the processes were directed towards some end. But he rejected that any influence of a designing God could be seen in this because it was not objectively defensible. "No synthetical proposition can be made withreference to what is beyond sensory perception." Kant does see an analogy between thinking about nature as a purposive system and theology - he often describes it as logically equivalent: "it must be a matter of complete indifference to us ... whether we say that God in his wisdom has willed it to be so, or that nature has wisely arranged it thus." God is the underlying order of nature and talk of God is not needed to explain nature. Indeed to explain how God and the world relate is outwith the realms of possible experience. It would be most interesting to know what Kant would make of modern evolutionary and views of nature as a self-organizing system, but of course we can only speculate. His work has had great influence on the Gaia movement.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Sounds like a logical positivist there....
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Punisher Inactive Member |
Thanks for the info. I've heard him called the father of american secularism. He does make for some interesting reading.
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Mister Pamboli Member (Idle past 7606 days) Posts: 634 From: Washington, USA Joined: |
quote: Ironically, yes in a way. Kant started the process of restricting the definition of reason and to what it can be applied which the Logical Positivists took to an extreme position. Many logical positivists reduced the scope of reason to the point at which meaning was entirely a matter of convention. The result was very subjectivist ethics because "good" and "evil" were only capable of being discussed by convention. This, of course, is some contrast to Kant's own ethical philosophy.
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Mister Pamboli Member (Idle past 7606 days) Posts: 634 From: Washington, USA Joined: |
quote: NP I can thoroughly recommend Ralph Walker's book on Kant in the Routledge "Great Philosophers" series.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: I thought that can of worms was opened by the British empiricists, Locke, Hume et al..... Didn`t Kant attempt to "unify" (spot the physicist we`re obsessed with unified theories) British empiricism and Continental rationalism (Descartes and Co.) forming German Idealism?
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
quote: Actually,Jefferson was the father of American secularism and everyone should really thank him for it...look at Saudi Arabia,Afghanistan in the last 5 years and a few other muslim country or to Europe from the 10th to the 16th century to see the result of a church driven state.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Really I thought it was John Locke who came up with the whole concept of equality and "inalienable" rights of man concepts that were used in the bloodless (or Glorious) revolution in the 1680`s in England... Surely given that Jefferson was paraphrasing Locke that makes Locke the Grandfather of American secularism..... [This message has been edited by joz, 03-21-2002]
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5061 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
I have always wished I had a job that would allow me to use Kant in my work rather than only to categorize him but I must say logically I was duly impressed and have considered scholarship that shows no advance over Aristotle is false as a Galileo would know by the same logic but done by the man without what telescopes did many years later. This way I could put up with Kant's alien but this is not Sagan's and the elite probably doesn't care aout this one either.
Kant, posed a question to me about the bound that Maxwell is the only one who attempted the answer but without benefit of Cantor. It is time to clean up the Hall. The diameter of the tube is not a milatary spec and may be Islamic as well. But so much for objectivity on True Seeker's. I may just stop posting there at all. Triple Helix is old news no matter the ...
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I feel the need to shore up the floor of this topic string, least the heavy name dropping causes much computer monitor damage, as Brad's text crashes towards the centre (spelling for joz) of the earth.
------------------BS degree, geology, '83 Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Why thanks Moose.... Of course your post was a little drab, maybe it needed some color (spelling for Moose)
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KingPenguin Member (Idle past 7912 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: |
seriously i think brad managed to kill 100000 of my brain cells with just that post.
------------------"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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Mister Pamboli Member (Idle past 7606 days) Posts: 634 From: Washington, USA Joined: |
quote: O Brad, I wish I could understand your posts! I did a quick search on Google for sites which mention Galileo, Cantor, Aristotle and Kant in one article and guess what? Here's one I think you will enjoy ...
http://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/Scie/ScieHatt.htm Meanwhile, here's a first. Have you ever tried that trick where you use Babelfish to translate something into French and then back to English? How odd it looks! How charming are the infelicities of language thus induced! Strangely, Brad's post comes out virtually unchanged ... Kant, put a question with me about the limit which Maxwell is the only one who tested the response but without advantage of Cantor. It is time to clean the Hall. The diameter of the tube is not Spc. milatary and can be Islamic as well. But so much for objectivity on the true researcher. I then just to cease announcing whole there. The triple spiral is old news none matter
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