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Author Topic:   Molecular Population Genetics and Diversity through Mutation
Genomicus
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Message 195 of 455 (785607)
06-07-2016 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by Faith
06-07-2016 11:40 AM


Re: Mt DNA and microsatellites as measures of genetic diversity
The writers for Wikipedia aren't babies in their field are they? Why would they leave out a common practice for assessing genetic diversity?
Check out the Wikipedia entry on measuring genetic diversity again

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Message 198 of 455 (785613)
06-08-2016 4:53 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by Faith
06-08-2016 4:35 AM


Re: Mt DNA and microsatellites as measures of genetic diversity
So are you saying that MtDNA and microsatellites are measuring nucleotide diversity?
Nucleotide diversity is one way of measuring genetic diversity. Nucleotide diversity can be measured with mtDNA and microsatellite sequences.
And it's not a trick. I just updated the Wikipedia entry since it was clearly lacking in comprehensiveness.

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Genomicus
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Message 229 of 455 (785685)
06-09-2016 1:17 AM
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06-09-2016 1:02 AM


Re: Mutations
The mutations you are talking about are in the somatic/body cells, at least the vast majority of them are, is this correct?
No, plenty of mutations occur in gametes, so this is obviously what NosyNed is referring to. Literally nobody here (other than you) is discussing somatic mutations, as these aren't really relevant to evolution.

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Genomicus
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Message 239 of 455 (785696)
06-09-2016 6:08 AM
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06-09-2016 5:42 AM


Re: Still await the rationalization for MtDNA & MicSat gen div measures
The topic that still needs explanation is the idea that you can measure genetic diversity by mutations in mitochondrial DNA and microsatellite DNA -- both areas that seem to have nothing to do with the actual losses under discussion, such as the loss of genetic diversity that is necessary to forming breeds and species...
Wut? No. You still don't get it. There is no net loss of genetic diversity necessary for the origin of new species.
...and the loss that at the extreme endangers creatures such as the cheetah and the elephant seal.
Umm, one of the reasons why the cheetah and elephant seals are at such a precarious point is precisely because they lack nucleotide diversity (which is measured through mtDNA, etc.), and thus lack genetic diversity. A low level of nucleotide diversity can be extraordinarily dangerous for a population. Fortunately, the elephant seals seem to be on the rocky road to recovery, but that's going to take time and will be contingent on other factors (e.g., the selection pressures wrought by an increase in global warming).

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