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Author Topic:   Evolution as Fact and Theory
hitchy
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Message 4 of 22 (81629)
01-30-2004 8:12 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Stephen ben Yeshua
01-30-2004 7:41 AM


old creationist ploys!!!
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Evolution is the theory of mechanism, whatever else Gould might think. Darwin was quite specific about this, putting it into the title of his statement: natural selection, as opposed to artificial selection.
natural selection is one of the mechanisms of evolutionary change. it is not the sole mechanism--sexual selection, genetic drift, etc.--all interact at some point. some of these processes do not lead to genetic diversity--genetic drift, for example.
evolution is not just natural selection.
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Facts, as Reagan realized, are theories that have become so plausible, so dependable in making confirmable predictions, that we can use them to effectively solve practical problems. As the Nazi's tried to do with evolution.
the misuse of a scientific theory/technology does not mean the theory/technology in and of itself is dangerous or wrong. people have used the "teachings" in the bible to commit unspeakable acts--witchburnings, crusades, slavery, to name a few. should we throw out the whole bible b/c some people used it for a way it was not intended?
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Slowly, slowly, just appeal to the great Artificial Selector in the heavens. Then what you see as the "master race" will peacefully emerge, will grow in numbers to populate the world, and see it ruled in peace, love, and prosperity. A vast improvement on the "Great Awakening" non-Darwinian type of believers, who kept, and keep wanting to snap-snap take over and change the world, in six days.
ah, yes. the appeals to heaven on earth--as long as you are following MY religion.
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hitchy
Member (Idle past 5148 days)
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From: Southern Maryland via Pittsburgh
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Message 8 of 22 (82196)
02-02-2004 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Stephen ben Yeshua
01-31-2004 12:07 PM


creation theories!?!
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I'm not throwing out the good things evolution has contributed to our thinking. Are you preserving the good things creation theories have contributed?
what good comes from trying to marry science and religion?
creationism is not, and by definition, cannot and will never be science! in science, the evidence leads and we follow. creationism treats the bible as objectively true (which of course it is not) and then accepts or makes up or misinterprets the evidence that supports biblical creation and ignores the evidence against it.
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For example, don't let stupored (hence, stupid) people make you ignore the good that can be accomplished through prayer.
nothing fails like prayer. for example, after watching george carlin one night, i began to pray to joe pesci. somethings i prayed for came to pass, others did not. the stuff i had immediate control of, of course, happened. the stuff that i had partial input on, some of it happened, some didn't. the stuff i had no control over, did not happen. i also tried meditating and on stressful days when i cannot get to the gym, i still meditate. i feel better, more relaxed, calmer, quieter. both of the above situations can also happen if i pray to jesus, moses, abraham, mohommad, vishnu, shiva, buddha, or joe pesci. prayer is in the same place god is...in the eye of the beholder.
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