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Author Topic:   Macroevolution Observed?
Intruder
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Message 48 of 55 (95037)
03-26-2004 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Trump won
03-12-2004 8:43 PM


Macro-evolution?
messenjaH of oNe writes:
Could macro evolution occur without man's intervention? If so, any naturally occuring ones you know off hand?
I believe the terms micro-e and macro-e are terms set by creationists. When you speak of evolution just refer to the "TOE" and the specific mechinism you have a problem with. For example, I believe you are having a problem with mutation, so, maybe you should research mutation.
Now in the past I have found that their are no limitations on mutation, and as such, the development of new species/genra would be very likly considering all the evidence we have.
p.s. (my opinion) Dont let people with no scientific authority(degree) set limitations with simple terms. I will say they can be very confusing, if you want too check into evolution don't use the goggles provided by creationists.
[This message has been edited by Intruder, 03-26-2004]

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Evolution = chance? = irrelevant.

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Intruder
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Message 51 of 55 (95045)
03-26-2004 11:42 PM
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03-26-2004 11:17 PM


Re: macrame mini-me
AbbyLeever writes:
currently it is drifting above speciation for most creationists
You are right. Macroevolution would be: speciation events and above. I was trying to help "messenjaH of oNe". If he wants to understand Evolution, he needs to use the goggles for lack of a word, that evolutionst wear not the goggles that creationist wear. That was my point. When evolutionst speak together we do not refer too micro and macro, we refer to the "TOE" mechinism, atleast in my experiance.
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Intruder
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Message 53 of 55 (95052)
03-27-2004 12:24 AM
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03-27-2004 12:05 AM


Re: macrame mini-me
AbbyLeever writes:
By drifting above I mean that speciation is being moved into micro-evolution and the evidence for it gets too overwhelming ...
Correct.
AbbyLeever writes:
Prediction: "macro" will continue to move up the cladistic levels as evidence accumulates so that creationist can continue to say it has not been observed.
My point exactly, the terms are used by Creationist. I also want to add, why dont creationist stick too the first definition they charted, instead of changing it, or, they could just use the terms accepted, Natural Selection, Mutation, etc..
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