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Mission for Truth
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Message 1 of 39 (115196)
06-14-2004 10:00 PM


Check it out: http://www.highiqsociety.org/flash/nonmembers/iqtests.htm
Do the "Ultimate IQ Test" and tell me what you get. I can't score any higher then 143, trust me, I've tried! And PLEASE tell me how to do question #12, I can't understand it for the life of me!

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Message 2 of 39 (115204)
06-14-2004 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Mission for Truth
06-14-2004 10:00 PM


MFT writes:
And PLEASE tell me how to do question #12
If it helps, think alternation. If I'm not mistaken, the next step is actually F.

The Laminator

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Message 3 of 39 (115212)
06-14-2004 11:19 PM


???
No Lam it doesn't help, it doesn't help at all! :*( lol

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Message 4 of 39 (115213)
06-14-2004 11:20 PM


IQ?
By the way, what was your IQ?

  
Traz
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Message 5 of 39 (115220)
06-14-2004 11:42 PM


I took the un-timed verbal test rather quickly (I figured it was my strongest area, due to moderate competitive Scrabble experience and recent easy ACT verbal outings). I hit 138 which is apparently 99 percentile or so, and easily qualifies me for membership, in the unlikely event that I ever choose to pursue it.
I did learn that I ought to read more widely though-- I missed a couple questions because I didn't recognize an author (or, once, a character). I'll get on it. I'm only 15-- I got plenty o' time.
Traz

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Message 6 of 39 (115251)
06-15-2004 2:00 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Traz
06-14-2004 11:42 PM


I missed a couple questions because I didn't recognize an author (or, once, a character).
Why on Earth would that be in an IQ test? Aren't the supposed to measure non-cultural aspects of intelligence? Or is that not true?

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Message 7 of 39 (115261)
06-15-2004 2:37 AM
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06-15-2004 2:00 AM


crashfrog writes:
quote:
Aren't the supposed to measure non-cultural aspects of intelligence? Or is that not true?
It has been my experience that the typical popular IQ test is actually a test of spatial perception and cultural identification.
For example, a common question is: What is the next letter in this sequence?
O T T F F S S
This only makes sense if you speak English because the catch is that those letters are the first letters of the numbers when written out: One, Two, Three, ... and thus the next letter is E for Eight. It is quite effective for English because of the repeated letters English happens to have. But try this in Greek:
Mu Delta Tau Tau Pi Eta Eta
Or even worse, Spanish:
U D T Q C S S
There isn't nearly the sneakiness involved. "What letter comes next" questions commonly have you find relationships between the letters, testing your knowledge of the alphabet and the ability to count by letters. Thus, to have a string of letters, most of them repeated, you get stuck because there doesn't seem to be a pattern.
And I have often found that in the "What is the next member of the sequence" type of questions, I can often find justification for more than one of the proferred responses and if I'm really into it, come up with some that aren't even available as options.
I saw one where the question was, "Which one of these shapes doesn't belong." The shapes were of a smaller polygon inside a larger polygon. The "right answer" was the one where the internal polygon had more sides than the external polygon. But the answer I came up with was the one where the internal polygon had the same number of sides as the external polygon.
The only way to judge those types of questions is to include the "And why?" portion: What is the next letter in the sequence and why?

Rrhain
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Message 8 of 39 (115263)
06-15-2004 2:49 AM
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06-15-2004 2:37 AM


I saw one where the question was, "Which one of these shapes doesn't belong." The shapes were of a smaller polygon inside a larger polygon. The "right answer" was the one where the internal polygon had more sides than the external polygon. But the answer I came up with was the one where the internal polygon had the same number of sides as the external polygon.
Yeah, I saw that too, just the other day, and I immediately came up with your second answer, too. In fact I had to sit and look at it again when I read the answer because I didn't understand how I had gotten it wrong.
There's a lot of situations like that described in Gould's "The Mismeasure of a Man." It's enough to make the whole enterprise rather suspect to me. What use is cultural identification, anyway? If I want that I'll just read People.

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Message 9 of 39 (115265)
06-15-2004 2:57 AM
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06-15-2004 2:49 AM


crashfrog responds to me:
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Yeah, I saw that too, just the other day
USA Today, Monday edition...or was it Tuesday? Ah, the joys of business travel.

Rrhain
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Message 10 of 39 (115290)
06-15-2004 5:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Mission for Truth
06-14-2004 10:00 PM


E, methinks.

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Message 11 of 39 (115297)
06-15-2004 6:52 AM


this is not an iq test. it requires knowledge of algebra and geometry.

  
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Message 12 of 39 (115347)
06-15-2004 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Traz
06-14-2004 11:42 PM


I just tried the verbal one. If that was an IQ test, I'm a winged lemur.
I will note that despite having an MA in English, I didn't actually know the answer to either literary question on the test; on the other hand, I was able to guess correctly both answers, so my pointless education may have been of some benefit. The one question I know I got wrong (Quaternary is a period, not an era) was science-related, which no doubt explains why I'm a scientist. Bah.

Willow: Sarcasm accomplishes nothing, Giles.
Giles: It's sort of an end in itself.

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Mission for Truth
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Message 13 of 39 (115369)
06-15-2004 1:08 PM


...lol. All I wanted to know was the answer to number 12!
I agree with some of you though. Having to know basic math is a requirement in these tests, but then, if it's a test to measure the more 'advanced' members of a population I would think it's necessary too.
One thing I WOULD like to see is someone that can answer more then two questions on the "Test For Exceptional Intelligence" now that one... is friggin' hard!

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Message 14 of 39 (115585)
06-16-2004 1:15 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Mission for Truth
06-15-2004 1:08 PM


Well, let's see...the cannonball tetrahedron is 455.
Tetrahedral numbers are formed by summing the triangular numbers:
Sum(i = 1 to n) i(i + 1)/2
So if you have a tetrahedron of 165 balls (9 on the bottom) and a tetrahedron of 286 (11 on the bottom), you can combine them to form a tetrahedron of 455 (13 on the bottom).
And the paper layout is:
ADGHFBEC
Starting from the bottom, C is in the upper right. E is half a square down. B is half a square down. F is half a square to the left. H is half a square to the left. G is half a square up. D is half a square up. A is in the center.
A torus can be divided maximally into eight pieces using three simultaneous plane cuts.
If you have two coins, one normal and one double-headed, choose one at random, place it on the table, and see that it is heads, there is a two-thirds chance that the other side is heads, too.
There are four different possible outcomes, each equally likely: Normal/tails, Normal/heads, Double/heads1, Double/heads2. Thus, there are three ways in which to draw a coin and have it show a head. Only one of those is the normal coin with tails on the other side. Thus, two of the three possible outcomes have a head on the other side.
Those were the ones I didn't really need to think about.

Rrhain
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Message 15 of 39 (115604)
06-16-2004 2:54 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Mission for Truth
06-15-2004 1:08 PM


i'm curious too. it looked like the misnamed peterson graph, and it looked like there were looking for a hamiltonian cycle.
however, the essential difference between the choices is exactly nothing. i figure it must have been in the funky edges, and be making some kind of pattern i couldn't figure out.
maybe i'll set my graph-theorist father on it.
but this is still not an iq test.

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