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jar
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Message 16 of 22 (169888)
12-19-2004 11:30 AM
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12-19-2004 10:41 AM


Re: Sheer Mathematics
Maybe in 1000 years, we can finally make it out of the galaxy with an unmanned probe.
Why?
How many star systems do you believe might be in our galaxy?
There are probably 200-600 BILLION stars in Our Galaxy.
It is 70 light years in thickness.
It is about 100,000 light years across.
The Milky Way Galaxy is neither the biggest nor the galaxy with the most stars.
So, lay out a timeline for exploring our Galaxy. How many years might be reasonable, even if you could travel at the speed of light.
Now, get the information discovered back to Earth. When will it arrive?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 17 of 22 (169921)
12-19-2004 6:19 PM
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12-19-2004 11:30 AM


Re: Sheer Mathematics
Oops. I actually mean't "out of the Solar system."

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Message 18 of 22 (169922)
12-19-2004 6:20 PM
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12-19-2004 6:19 PM


Re: Sheer Mathematics
We've already sent unmaned probes out of the solar system.

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Message 19 of 22 (169923)
12-19-2004 6:21 PM
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12-19-2004 11:11 AM


Re: Sheer Mathematics
Actually, there is one thing faster than light. The speed of thought. I can imagine a galaxy 100 million light years away, and perhaps in the future, my imagination will become my vision and destination.

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Message 20 of 22 (170001)
12-20-2004 1:06 AM
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12-19-2004 10:41 AM


Re: Sheer Mathematics
Phatboy responds to me:
quote:
I am looking at the sheer probability of contact based upon the sheer number of chance civilizations that in theory exist.
You still run into the problem that the galaxy is a very large place. What possible incentive could any civilization have in exploring this particular corner of it?
quote:
Even allowing for technological differences, surely 1 out of a possible 30,000 could find us.
Just because you are technologically capable doesn't mean you are practically capable. Somewhere on the planet earth, I have hidden a pea. It is in plain sight and brightly colored. There's even a sign that says, "This is the pea you are looking for," with an arrow pointing at it. Go find it. When you see it, you'd recognize it in a heartbeat. You are technologically capable of finding the pea. You are not, however, practically capable of finding it because the space in which you have to look is so vast.
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If this math can't be figured as a probable, how on earth will WE ever get our space exploring act together?
What makes you think we can? You're forgetting that the galaxy is a very large place. It took decades just for the Pioneer probes to leave the solar system. Even if we wanted to leave, it would require a setup that would provide a sustainable environment for generations.
The Pioneer space probe is currently heading toward Aldebaran, 68 light years away. At its current rate, it will take over two million years to get there. What sort of project do you think you can create that will be able to survive for that long?

Rrhain
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Cthulhu
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Message 21 of 22 (170301)
12-20-2004 10:41 PM
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12-19-2004 6:21 PM


Re: Sheer Mathematics
No. It's not. The speed of thought, or the speed at which electricity travels through your nerves, is 80 miles per hour.

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Message 22 of 22 (170662)
12-22-2004 5:21 AM
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12-20-2004 1:06 AM


Re: Sheer Mathematics
Good response, Rrhain. I actually learned something from your post, today.

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