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riVeRraT
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Message 11 of 29 (352316)
09-26-2006 6:54 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Chiroptera
09-25-2006 11:46 AM


Re: With apologies to David Letterman.
I'm going to leave my son in the woods. If he survives, he will have earned the right to develop his own values.
That was too funny
You can't force your kids to believe anything. They are their own individuals, and will have their own opinions no matter what. You will steer your kids one way or another, by your actions, not your words. You can force them away, or keep them close.
I try to teach my kids what I believe, and why. They are free to make their own choices.

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 446 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 24 of 29 (352400)
09-26-2006 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Larni
09-26-2006 11:38 AM


Re: With apologies to David Letterman.
This is so untrue! If you teach a kid from day one that such and such is true it will take a hell of an effort to de-program him/her.
Your only partially right. I should have clarified more. Was I was indicating was that, you could teach them to believe this and that, they may believe that for awhile. Eventually, the world will show them different, and they will form their own independent opinions.
The factors involved in this are way to varying for it to be an absolute. You would have to take into account the intelligence of the persons involved, and what they went through in life, how much exposure they will have. No matter what, life will teach you more lessons than anything else. You can choose whether what your parents taught is correct for you or not.
But I see forcing your opinion on your kids as being a wrong way of going about raising your kids. If your opinion of life is correct, and you give your kids the choice, and you show them why it is correct, then they should have no other option but to choose what is right for them, no matter how long it takes. It's called a learning curve.
I am a pretty good example of all that at work(freedom of choice). My mother and father (divorced) are like two different ends of the stick. While I am more like my father, and see eye to eye with him 90% of the time, there are still differences. I only see eye to eye with my mom like 50% of the time. I am just glad they always gave me the room to make my own choice about the subjects we are talking about.
Of course there are things that you should not let your kids make choices about, like dropping out of school. While it may seem like conflict to them, we know what is better for them, most of the time. Still we need to explain, AND show to them why, to give them the tools they need to be successful in life.
Added thought. I Was just thinking about how I make my kids go to church with me, and some would see that as me forcing my religion on them. Well unfortunatly for them, they cannot stay at home alone, while I am in church. When they get old enough too, they can. But keep in mind, even though they are going to church with me, I do not force them to believe in God, or Jesus. I just explain to them, why I believe, and tell them they can make their own choices. I explain that there will be much confusion in life regarding this subject.
If Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit is the ultimate truth, and I do a good job of conveying that truth through my love for them, and through my love of God, then they will come to know the truth all on their own. They will choose when they believe in God or not, and at that time they can be baptised in water to show their choice. Until them, God will show them the way, and teach them what He wants to teach them.

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 26 of 29 (352456)
09-26-2006 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Phat
09-26-2006 12:59 PM


Re: With apologies to David Letterman.
Train them up by showing them many sides of an argument. Explain to them why you hold the views and beliefs that you do. Live an honest life in front of them.
They may not choose to be or think as you do, but it will be their free choice, which is what God would want.
Right?
Exactly. They are God's children, I am just in charge of raising them.
That's my belief.

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