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kuresu
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Message 6 of 120 (357386)
10-19-2006 12:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Trump won
10-18-2006 10:54 PM


your bias is really quite overwhelming, MOO:
they require much thought and (to add the controversy) have no answer from a Godless mindset
how does gravity come about. well, gee, let's think about it for a moment. In this universe, denser objects attract to them less dense objects--that's the most basic principle, though it isn't quite adequate at describing how gravity works--that's where GR comes in handy.
Inertia is also similar. once a mass gets moving, unless friction acts upon it, it will get faster, and faster, and faster. (so long as I've got the right inertia. I could be mistaking this with something else, though similar).
These "laws" are nothing more than the natural consequences of the properties involved, such as mass, friction, volume, density, ad infinitum.

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kuresu
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Message 27 of 120 (357454)
10-19-2006 12:23 PM
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10-19-2006 8:03 AM


trust me, I got your questions. they were:
How did laws of gravity and inertia, how did these laws come about.
How does a law come about?
How is it that the universe is governed
there's nothing deep in any of these questions. I said what Dr.A said, he just said it better. Laws are just our way of describing what he see happening. They are what they are due to the emergent properties that they have.
If you really, really want to know how it can be that the laws that govern how our universe operates can be, well, maybe you need to have a refresher in science. they are, simply, because they are. We have all of these emergent properties, that in our universe, lead to this one law, or that law, or whatnot. The way these properties came about have to deal with the very beginning of our universe and the events shortly thereafter. As someone said earlier, you're pretty much asking--why is a sphere spherical, and how can that be?

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