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Who's killing the GOP?

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Message 4 of 27 (363660)
11-13-2006 7:27 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by AnswersInGenitals
11-13-2006 5:20 PM

We've got to give some blame to Ronald Reagan, too, for giving such political power to the Religious Right, which was politicized and emboldened with his and his party's encouragement.
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Over the years since then, the RR has become crazier and more extreme in their views, and bolder and more outspoken, all because they had an aly in the GOP.
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The GOP made their deal with the devil when they became beholden to the RR, and now they are paying for it.
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Message 6 of 27 (363670)
11-13-2006 9:18 PM 		Reply to: Message 5 by Chiroptera
11-13-2006 8:09 PM

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What surprises me even more is that it seems that it wasn't so much that this very strange, unwieldy coalition crumbled, but that the non-ideological "undecided" voters finally decided to cast their votes for the other guys.
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Maybe it's not that they decided to vote for the other party.
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Maybe it's that they decided to vote at all.
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Or, it could be that the Democrats, in the last 12 years or more, have been trying to be "Republican Lite".
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Here's an intersting view on the swing voters:
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Eschaton
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I think the big issue here is the perpetual confusion of "independent" and "swing voters" with some concept of "centrist" or "moderate" which is generally put out by the press, when in reality these people are often low information voters who are likely to vote for someone "who knows what s/he stands for" instead of someone who has mushy middle distinctions-without-differences policy positions. There are tribal Democrats, tribal Republicans, and some genuine "can be convinced on the issues" voters. But most of the people up for grabs "in the middle" aren't really in the middle in any sense that we understand it. Instead, they vote their gut and are proud of it.
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Besides, if you run a mushy middle candidacy, they're still going to run commercials calling you a crazy liberal who's going to make your son marry a dude and raise taxes to 100%. I see it happen over and over.
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Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.
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11-14-2006 7:11 AM 		Reply to: Message 7 by Minnemooseus
11-13-2006 9:57 PM

Re: Rove, Bush, Cheney - Deep undercover radical leftists
I LOVE Tom Tomorrow.
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Been reading that comic for years.
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11-14-2006 8:09 AM 		Reply to: Message 10 by Chiroptera
11-14-2006 7:48 AM

Gotcha
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03-05-2007 9:50 AM 		Reply to: Message 22 by berberry
03-04-2007 9:24 PM

Re: Ann Coulter
The thing is, Coulter has been saying hateful, stupid shit for years, but why is it only now that other conservative pundits are objecting?
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It just shows that they are craven, amoral sluts to power, and wherever the political winds blow, that's the way they will spin their own opinions.
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03-07-2007 6:40 PM 		Reply to: Message 26 by berberry
03-07-2007 11:02 AM

Re: More about that old bony woman with the hair
I have never, ever seen ANY conservative criticism of Coulter before this.
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She has "joked" that liberal Supreme Court and Bill clinton should be killed, and no conservatives said anything.
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She has called Arabs "ragheads" and no conservatives said anything.
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She has "joked" that we should televise the torture Arabs as American entertainment, and no conservative said anything.
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She has said that we should invade all Muslim countries and forcibly convert them all to Christianity, and no conservative said anything.
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She said that we should "nuke North Korea" and no conservative said anything.
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It goes on and on and on.
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But calling Edwards a "faggot"?
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THAT is something they all think is worth getting outraged over compared to the (in my mind) far, far more offensive and treasonous things she's said in the past?
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Maybe it's a "last straw" kind of thing, but it is really just very strange to me.
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