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riVeRraT
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Message 3 of 23 (277462)
01-09-2006 6:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by berberry
01-08-2006 5:46 AM


Do those Christian channels even make any money from cable?
I thought they were listener supported.

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riVeRraT
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Message 9 of 23 (277653)
01-09-2006 11:16 PM
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01-09-2006 9:14 AM


They are like PBS, and would be free, I am pretty sure.
If you donate, then you are commiting to help a ministry.
I do not like all the people I see there, but some are just fine.
What is weird, is that before I had my religious experience, I could not stand that channel, even though I had accepted Christ. After, I started to understand some of it better. Go figure.
There is a formula on how to be crazy, and if you read the bible, you will unlock hidden brain cells from deep within, and you become crazy, lol.

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riVeRraT
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Message 13 of 23 (278007)
01-11-2006 7:09 AM
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01-10-2006 9:53 AM


Oh, sure, there are both good and bad people in almost every profession.
Ahhh, my 80% rule. 80% bad, 20% good, no matter the profession, what do you think?

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riVeRraT
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Message 17 of 23 (281915)
01-27-2006 1:22 AM
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01-11-2006 7:54 AM


{qs80% of all medical doctors are bad at what they do?
80% of all police officers?
Soldiers in the US armed forces?[/qs]
Of the 100 or so people that I presented this to, you are the first to challenge this.
You pose a complicated question, so I will try to clarify.
80% of doctors, oh yea baby, and I am being generous. After watching myself be misdiagnosed several times, and doctors almost killing my son twice, most people would agree that it is hard to find a good doctor. I am not challenging thier education, just how well they apply it.
80% of police offficers? Surely you are kidding me. Most cops I know are corrupt. This makes what they know and how to apply it bad. Again, I am not challenging their actual knowledge. Are they doing a dangerous job? Of course. Does this give them a right to eat donuts 24-7, no.
80% of soldiers?
You know what, I wrote a whole thing explaining it, but I just deleted it. I will not even say anything that would remotely insult the very people that fight to give me my freedom. Lets just say that things can be relative.
What one must ask one self is, just what makes a good soldier? Their honor is not in question here, only the ability. If it is based on honor alone, then 80% doesn't work.
try to find a good car mechanic, a good dentist, a good plumber, a good restaurant, you will see just how close that 80% rule is.
Your smart, you should realize this.

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riVeRraT
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Message 21 of 23 (282056)
01-27-2006 8:52 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by NosyNed
01-27-2006 2:20 AM


Re: the 80% rule
They are mostly at least dammed competent at their jobs and many are astonishingly good.
One of three explanations.
#1 luck
#2 you weed out the bad before you "buy"
#3 you are a member of the 80% (which I doubt)
Oh wait #4, maybe you haven't even really been noticing.
I am a blue collar worker, and I have worked around 100's of other blue collar workers. There is no way that anything less than 80% of them are lacking in their skill.
Perfect example. I took a test to become a sheet metal worker. The test was tough. 900 people applied. Only 120 passed the written, and then out of that only 60 passed the practical. I came in 17th.
Another example, I have had several things happen to me medically, not one has been diagnosed correctly, ever on the first try.
Another example. I always work on my own cars. The first three mechanics I finally gave in too, screwd up my car. Now I have finally found a "good mechanic" and he has put a heater core in my old van, and it doesn't work right, he will be fixing it at least.
You must live in a perfect world or something.

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riVeRraT
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Message 22 of 23 (282057)
01-27-2006 8:59 PM
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01-27-2006 7:47 AM


The thing is, rat, you only gave examples from your own experience (with is very narrow and very biased) and have made no attempt to look at the wider overall picture.
It is MY 80% rule, no-one elses.
The other thing is, that besides you and Nosey Ned, no-one has ever dis-agreed with me.
Also being a member of the 80% might actually mask the truth.
Its still subjective anyway, and it doesn't mean anything. Take count in your life, now that I made you aware.
*edit*
Oh, and I agree with you, it could have to with your area you live in, and be quality of life specific.
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