But isn't vaccination consistent with Naturopathic philosophy?

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And antibiotics do not "mask symptoms" since they're designed to eliminate the bacteria causing the symptoms, which means that antibiotics are focused on the root cause and not on the symptoms.

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Just to pile on, which I know LindaLou has complained about, antibiotics don't actually clear up the infection, per se. That is, there isn't nearly enough antibiotic provided in a course of treatment to kill all the bacteria in an infected patient.What antibiotics do is control the infection enough so that the body's natural defenses can take over and clear the bacteria out.Given the claimed philosophy of naturopathy, one would expect them to be highly supportive of antibiotics. And, indeed, they do advocate garlic as a "natural antibiotic." One gets the feeling that they are more concerned with perpetuating the misanthropy and anti-science attitudes than in dealing with the effectiveness of what they're dealing with.After all...penicillin comes from mold. What could be more "natural"?Too, one of the first ways people developed to prevent smallpox was to take the scabs from someone who had been infected with smallpox and sew them into the skin of the person to be treated. The person would actually contract a mild case of smallpox with a few dozen sores and be bedridden for a couple of days, but they would then be immune.That's exactly what vaccination does, but in a much more efficient method: Trigger the body into thinking it has the disease without actually contracting the disease.I fail to see how anybody could tell the difference between immunity derived from contracting a full-blown case of a disease and immunity derived from vaccination. They work on the exact same principle: Introduce specific antigens into the body so that it creates antibodies to the antigen. It's just that in vaccination, we don't include the infectious part...just the antigen.

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Anti-biotics have saved literally millions and millions of lives. I've always wondered how anti-anti-biotics people would do if they come down with a bad bacterial infection that threatens their lives. Would they use anti-biotics to help fight the infection or would they sacrifice an arm or a leg due to subsequent amputation in the name of naturopathy?Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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Naturopathic Philosophy
This article "Vaccinations, Natural Immunity and Patient Rights" gives some insight into some of the issues. By providing this article I am not saying I agree with everything in it and I have no intention of defending it.As I commented in Message 2, I don't feel the concept of vaccination goes against the naturopathic philosophy.There are a lot of issues in the vaccination dispute. The information necessary to truly discuss the long term health issues or the fillers and ingredients is beyond the reach of most on this forum, especially me. So there is no point in trying to discuss any point concerning them.Sometimes the issue is more about choice than anything else. As I've said before, when the government makes something mandatory, the populace expects accountability. Yes, I know you have shown that there is no evidence that there is a causal connection blah blah blah.You're missing the point. Informed Consent
If I am provided with all the pros and cons of a vaccination and decide to allow my child the vaccination, then I can better accept the reactions.When one is not provided the information before the fact or given an option, then someone else is accountable for problems that may arise.When something that is mandatory could be at fault, the authorities are very careful when, if, and how they accept responsibility.There needs to be more transparency. As I've said before the lack of consistent transparency in the medical profession and lack of compensation for errors, along with legal liabilities, and politics can cause people to act irrationally.That is reality, whether we like it or not.We don't have the means to see through the politics, whether governmental or business.So I would agree that the vaccine concept doesn't truly go against the naturopathic philosophy. That doesn't mean there's not room for improvement in how it is applied.

Hi PurpleDawn,Just addressing the part of your message that's on-topic: Precisely!--Percy