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Author Topic:   So let's look at why the Islamic world might be annoyed by the West?
Damouse
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Message 149 of 174 (317278)
06-03-2006 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by Buzsaw
06-02-2006 8:59 PM


Re: A pause and summary.
(jar wrote)
The picture that develops as anyone looks at the area though, is that religion played almost no part in the creation of these nations.......
There was a great article that i read called "Oil and Democracy don't mix" that i read in the washington (?) which said that since there was never a division between church and state in the middle east, the government uses the church to control minorities. Specifically, since the economy does not need to specialize from the wealth that oil brings in, the country only needs a dictatorship. all of the minority idea groups therefor flock to the church, which is directly supported by the government. As a result, the Middle east hit an era of stagnency where nothing will happen either scientifically, economically, or socially because the "church" has the nation under control.
Conveluted, i know, but ill try to find the article later.

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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Damouse
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Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 165 of 174 (318029)
06-05-2006 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by Admin
06-05-2006 11:47 AM


Re: Off-topic Alert
... brutal!
back on topic...
Why the islamic world might be annoyed...
An iffy theory: (historical) Strife in africa, former strife in Asia, and the US and UN's tendencies to go on long vacations there with a few carrier groups. I think the oil is a huge reason (for the long vacations) along with the array of dictatorships giving a reason to camp out. I wouldn't argue from a simply religious POV. Simply a bunch of little things adding up to "break the camel's back".
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-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4936 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 167 of 174 (318051)
06-05-2006 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by jar
06-05-2006 5:42 PM


Re: On oil and water
When i said history i meant recent history, not early history. i had been subcousciously following the ideas of the 9/11 attack folks, so i was scrounging for reasons in modern day.
Ahh. What would have happened if Europe hadn't broken up and colonized all of the fresh meat in the east/middle east?
Would they have developed redically different?
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-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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