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riVeRraT
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Message 57 of 62 (392726)
04-01-2007 11:10 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by ringo
04-01-2007 8:29 AM


Re: RR Appeals to Censorship
The ability to "control the airwaves" via government doesn't give you the right to censor the content of those airwaves.
Of course it does, its called a democracy.

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riVeRraT
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Message 58 of 62 (392727)
04-01-2007 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by nator
04-01-2007 9:11 AM


Re: Easy solution
You still haven't given a reason for why this isn't a reasonable solution.
Are you joking me?
I don't need to give you a REASON why.
I like TV, and so do my kids, it is just as much a right for us to watch it as the next person. And since it is public, and regulated by OUR government, then I can have a say in it, whether you agree with me or not.
All my kids friends watch TV, am I supposed to isolate them from the world? Don't you always preach against doing such things, then label me as a cult?
Why does it have to be one or the other?

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riVeRraT
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Message 60 of 62 (392732)
04-01-2007 11:34 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by anglagard
04-01-2007 9:24 PM


Re: RR Appeals to Censorship
Fiction still speaks to the human condition, and the human condition is reality. Therefore fiction is not necessarily worthless in learning in the humanities or sciences, as your English teacher would say.
Yes, but is fiction a privelage or a necessity?
Fiction is rated.
You say you want to censor public television more than it is censored today, and I watch public television. Therefore, you want to censor what I see. You just said it in the above three sentences which, by the way, contradict each other.
No, I meant I don't want to control EVERYTHING you watch.
More than it is cencored today? You say that like it is getting worse, not better for you. Do a 30 year comparison, Ithink you'll see the firection we are heading.
AS a matter of fact it happened again today. Sunday afternoon, watching a basketball game, and on comes a commercial for desperate housewifes. A show that glamorizes women cheating, and in the commercial there is sexual content, thaty I would consider not appropiate for children under a certain age.
Why do I need to see that crap?
Oh, I wholeheartedly agree. My opinion is that public television has too much censorship and yours is that it has too little. We differ, so get over it. And stop using the term 'we' when you apparently have no intention of including 'me.'
me, that is you have been getting your way for years. What are you complaining about?
You'll have to justify why it is good for a kid who is 4 years old to see someone getting their head blown off during a commercial break, on a Sunday afternoon during a basketball game.
Wait never mind, you can't.
To assume my family is "corrupt" because my daughter watched certain R-rated movies when a child is a complete act of hubris and shows a judgmental streak unworthy of a professed Christian.
Thanks for putting words in my mouth, I thought you were above that.
Let me ask you a question, do you blindly let your 5 year children watch r rated movies?
That begs the question, what would you do with politicians, pundits, and propaganda vehicles such as Faux News?
I am not familiar with faux news.
In general I am not happy with news. I think there is little accountability with them, and they can basically report anything the way they want. It's only ability to read between the lines, can we get some idea of the actual story. Why must we live this way? I think it programs us into a world of lies and deception being ok.
Who said anything about changing the form of government in the US?
Because you keep saying "me" while I keep saying we.
Why should television be censored for those too poor to afford cable or satellite?
Well I guess that is a whole other topic there. But in short television is a luxury, not a necessity.
Shouldn't all people have equal access to information regardless of money or power?
Real information, yes. Fiction no. With fiction, it becomes a luxury.
Or are the ethics of the library profession too democratic for your tastes?
My cousin is a librarian for the science part of the main branch in NYC, I have much respect for her.
I have lost my right to see what I want in the manner in which I wish.
I don't see that as a right with public television, when it comes to fiction.
This may make an interesting topic for another thread, this one is probably veering off.
Ok I'll stop.

{ABE} just noticed the new thread, oops.
Message off-topic. See previous message. Bulk of this message was rendered invisible (use "peek" if you must see it), but I restored it to visible prior to closing topic. - Adminnemooseus
Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.
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