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Author Topic:   Belief...a choice?
jar
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Message 24 of 113 (162893)
11-24-2004 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by LinearAq
11-24-2004 9:17 AM


Re: Are we on topic?
I have studied slowly and for quite a long time. This has only confused me and led to questions that noone in my church thinks I should even ask. They certainly make no effort to provide an answer except "pray about it" or "you just need to believe it". Sorry folks, my mind doesn't work that way.
Fantastic. You are definitely headed in the right direction. If GOD exists and gave you a mind he certainly expected you to use the sucker. Hell, except for the wrapping it's the biggest organ in your body.
So are there instances when you can choose to believe?
IMHO, yes.
As with anything, most folk look at the available evidence for something and that evidence determines belief. Whether we are talking about miricles, spirits, orbits, evolution, the Exodus or any other subject, the preponderance of evidence determines belief.
But it is also possible to make a conscious decision to ignore evidence. It is possible to say regardless of all the evidence that 2 + 2 = 4 I will believe that 2 + 2 = 5. You will be wrong, but you can hold that belief.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 43 of 113 (163626)
11-27-2004 11:59 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by zol
11-27-2004 11:51 PM


Re: I wish I was as innocent as you
Hi, welcome to EvC. It seems to be that there is quite a bit of evidence that wind exists. It seems to me it would be harder to believe wind didn't exist than that it does.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 92 of 113 (164311)
12-01-2004 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by zol
12-01-2004 3:32 AM


Re: I wish I was as innocent as you
zol
The problem is two fold. First, your analogy was simply terrible and in fact 100% wrong in relation to this thread. Wind is a great example of belief based on evidence. Wind is something that everyone can test, measure, demonstrate, document.
Second, in your response you wander off into making a whole host of unfounded statements about the Bible, none of which have anything to do with the subject.
Try to stick with the subject.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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