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Author Topic:   Questions for theo-evolutionists and evos
crashfrog
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Message 3 of 17 (74405)
12-20-2003 2:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by TheVanisher
12-20-2003 1:25 AM


How many, if any, confirmed inter-speciary fossils have been found? You know, the fossils that demonstrate gradual evolution between the species.
How could any organism not be a species?
You're asking for something that doesn't exist. You can have a population that starts as one species, evolves into another, and yet into a third, and every organism in that population will be of a species, throughout the transformations.
This is possible because new species can arise.
Maybe you want to rethink your question because it doesn't make sense. Evolution doesn't predict monsters that belong to no species. It predicts organisms that belong to new species. There's no halfway-point between species.
Now, if your question is "how do new species come to be?" That's a good question. That's the one that had me as a creationist for so long. And it turns out the answer is so simple. You get new species when a population of organisms is split off from the group. They contiue to breed, but only with themselves. Mutations accrue in a process called "genetic drift". When the two populations' gene pools have drifted far enough, members from the two populations can no longer have fertile hybrids. At that point you know they're two different species.
When exactly did you get a new species in the above example? That's hard to tell. The line between species is very, very fuzzy indeed. Look up the example of "ring species" to see more on that. (Pubmed, or even just google.)
How do you explain OT prophecy that came to pass in real life, such as the accounts in Daniel. Were they just added in later by someone else or is there a less sinister explination for them?
How do you explain that a psychic predicted Princess Di's accident the day before it happened? (I remember this one very clearly, as the issue of the National Inquirerer was still on the shelves the next day.)
Well, I don't know how you explain it, but I explain it with chance. When things go your way, you remember both the prediction and the outcome. When they don't you don't remember you were wrong; you forget the prophecy altogether.
As for prophecy in the OT: I've read plenty of books where something prophecised in the beginning happened in the end. That's a common technique in fiction.
[This message has been edited by crashfrog, 12-20-2003]

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