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Mammuthus
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Message 5 of 11 (266006)
12-06-2005 6:53 AM


Where are the Christians protesting this?
To update this story further, the same professor was attacked by two individuals while walking along the road.
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LAWRENCE, Kan. Dec 5, 2005 ” A college professor whose planned course on creationism and intelligent design was canceled after he derided Christian conservatives said he was beaten by two men along a rural road early Monday.
University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki said the men referred to the class when they beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their fists, and possibly a metal object, the Lawrence Journal-World reported.
"I didn't know them," Mirecki said of his assailants, "but I'm sure they knew me."
Messages left by the Associated Press on Mirecki's cell phone were not immediately returned.
Sheriff's Lt. Kari Wempe said Mirecki reported the attack just before 7 a.m.
The professor said he confronted the men after they were tailgating his vehicle along a road south of Lawrence. "I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots," he said.
Mirecki planned to offer a spring course called "Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies" after the Kansas Board of Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in science standards for elementary and secondary students.
Last week, Mirecki asked the university to cancel the class after he created a furor by sending an e-mail to a student organization mocking Christian fundamentalists.
Mirecki had referred to religious conservatives as "fundies," and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat face." He has apologized for those comments.
Whether you think what Mirecki did was correct or not...is this how Xians wish to be portrayed? If offended, initiate a cowardly attack with 2 on one on a side road on a professor of religious studies? So much for "turn the other cheek"

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Mammuthus
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Message 8 of 11 (268097)
12-12-2005 9:38 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by jar
12-06-2005 12:00 PM


Re: Where are the Christians protesting this?
Having constantly heard how immoral and unethical anybody is who is 1)non-Xian 2) liberal
I find the silence of the so called "moral majority" or morality concerned xians rather indicative of supreme hypocrisy rather than a supreme being
I am not claiming all Xians hold this view..but it is pretty amazing how so many were eager to condemn this man for his actions but not a peep from any of them about the very supposedly un-Xian behavior of the two guys who assaulted him.

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Mammuthus
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Message 9 of 11 (268110)
12-12-2005 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Mammuthus
12-12-2005 9:38 AM


Re: Where are the Christians protesting this?
Another update,
Not only has the guy been beaten up..he has been forced to resign his chairmanship by the University.
so I see that free speech is yet another principle the religous right are against...I guess the hyprocisy will end once they tie the guy up and burn him as a warlock in Salem?
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Mammuthus
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Message 11 of 11 (268671)
12-13-2005 4:01 AM
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12-12-2005 12:54 PM


Re: Where are the Christians protesting this?
Hi jar,
I am not sure I would agree with that. If a parent wants to home school their child, that is essentially their decision. I know a professor who was so frustrated with the public school system that he home schooled his own children...since he was a molecular biologist, they got a really good science and math education. It was his choice for his family. If Xians pulled out of the public school system, that would be there choice. I would not feel compelled to ever hire a home schooled student in lab who's answer to every question was "goddidit" but that is another issue. I do agree with you that the radical Xian right in America is trying to stifle discussion of the subjects precisely because their uneducated views of science will not withstand scrutiny. That their methods of stifling are turning violent indicates very dark days to come. Having looked around the web for responses to this event in Kansas, the right wing blogs are either applauding the incident or claiming it never happened and that he is lying (but deserved it anyway)..scary stuff. Similar things happened here in Germany not too long ago...and the consequences where horrendous.

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