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Author Topic:   ID Failing--at Christian Institutions
nator
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Message 19 of 38 (268090)
12-12-2005 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Omnivorous
12-03-2005 9:50 PM


West is a political scientist, remember.
Not a real one

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nator
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Message 20 of 38 (268095)
12-12-2005 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by randman
12-11-2005 3:57 PM


Re: I wouldn't count ID out.
quote:
1. Researching adaptive mutations.
What are the ID predictions regarding adaptive mutations?
quote:
2. Researching degrees of non-randomness in mutations.
What are the ID predictions regarding non-randomness in mutations?
quote:
3. Comprehensively researching the fossil record, such as the theorized land mammal to whale evolution, to see if the numbers of fossils of theorized transitional species is what one would expect for ID or for evolutionary models.
(Of course, the ToE makes no predictions at all about how many fossils there will be, only that they exist at all)
What are the predictions of ID regarding how many fossils one would expect?
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5. Quantum physics research that could be related, except this would be hard to do unless one could fine a QM physics researcher interested in the subject.
What are the predictions of ID related to QM?
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6. Researching consciousness since presumably ID would need to include a Designer with consciousness. For example, researching NDEs more could be a start to defining what human consciousness is in terms of where it occurs.
What are the ID predictions regarding the origins of consciousness?
You will need to make very specific predictions in your grant proposal, randman, if you want to get real research money.
Of course, I suspect that no ID proponents could answer these very simple scientific questions and that is why they couldn't manage to submit a suitable application for the research grants.
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nator
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Message 34 of 38 (269140)
12-14-2005 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by MangyTiger
12-12-2005 6:31 PM


truly, I'm shocked
quote:
The record shows you made a claim and would not either back it up or withdraw it.
Randman is making factual claims that, when asked to back them up, refuses to support of withdraw?
How incredible! How unbelievable! How out of character for randman!
Isn't this sort of thing that got him suspended/made a moderator?
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