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LinearAq
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Message 34 of 108 (333655)
07-20-2006 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Faith
07-20-2006 7:03 AM


Re: Of course it is ... just as moral as ...
I'm saying that anything as universal as marriage, understood to be the culturally legitimized uniting of male and female, expressed as such absolutely everywhere and always, should not be changed in our major modern culture just because a few small oddball depraved cultures over the last few millennia have sort of/kind of/maybe/almost married homosexuals.
I'm saying that anything as universal as (slavery), understood to be the culturally legitimized uniting of (master) and (slave), expressed as such absolutely everywhere and always, should not be changed in our major modern culture just because a few small oddball depraved cultures over the last few millennia have sort of/kind of/maybe/almost (criminalized slavery).
A little stilted in expression but seems to fit well.

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LinearAq
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Message 85 of 108 (335248)
07-25-2006 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by Faith
07-25-2006 4:13 PM


not religious?
Faith writes:
The argument from the Bible is an argument for the laws of the one true and living God who made everything and everyone. It's not a "religious" matter. If a society doesn't adhere to these laws, the society is in trouble.
Then shouldn't this (United States) society be in really big trouble since we not only allow improper (Hindu, Buddist, Muslim...etc) marriages and worship, we have made that ability a RIGHT for all persons in our country. We even have it written in our highest standard for all our laws as the first right in direct and, I would say, defiant violation of the first of God's laws.
So why isn't there an overwhelming call from the pulpits of the fundamentalist churches to strike that law from the Constitution of the United States?
Why isn't the Christian right calling out to tear down from the high places those altars to the false gods just as Hezekiah son of Ahaz did?
Surely we are doing evil in the sight of the Lord if we do not, at the very least, call for their destruction.
Edited by LinearAq, : change "a" to "at"

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LinearAq
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Message 99 of 108 (335378)
07-26-2006 6:18 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by RAZD
07-25-2006 7:47 PM


Re: not religious?
RAZD writes:
In other words you place being american second to being christian
As she well should because God is higher than any man-made political entity. The real problem here for "true" Christians is the statements by Paul and Peter that governments are placed here by God and should be obeyed. At some point where the government requires disobedience of God's laws, Christians must choose to disobey. Luckily, the US has not enacted any such laws so far.

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LinearAq
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Message 100 of 108 (335380)
07-26-2006 6:28 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Faith
07-25-2006 7:34 PM


Re: not religious?
Faith writes:
But Christians have battled the pluralistic interpretation of the first amendment all along and continue to battle against it.
By this statement, I assume you are saying that you believe the framers of the Constitution intended religious freedom to apply to various forms of Christianity only. Could you provide some evidence from that time to support your contention? Personal correspondence or transcripts from meetings or speaches perhaps?
Can you point to ANY movement within Congress at ANY time in our history that would support this idea?
Which Christian groups in our history have actually tried to influence the government to change the Constitution to allow only Christianity?
Do you personally believe that the First Ammendment should apply to Christianity only?

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LinearAq
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Message 101 of 108 (335382)
07-26-2006 6:35 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by happy_atheist
07-26-2006 2:23 AM


Mind reading not necessary
happy-athiest writes:
It would be very hard to make homosexuality or hinduism illegal because then you'd have to mind read.
No one cares what they think as long as they are not allowed to express it publicly. We could remove all the temples, mosques, and gay bars. We could make illegal any expression favorable to those anti-God ideas.
Perhaps we could even recruit ordinary citizens to help police this problem by teaching in our public schools techniques for recogizing the tell-tale signs of secret offenders.

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LinearAq
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From: Pocomoke City, MD
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Message 107 of 108 (335396)
07-26-2006 7:59 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Faith
07-25-2006 7:34 PM


Re: not religious?
Sorry, I forgot to address this point.
Faith writes:
But back to the other hand, this isn't a theocracy and Christians are supposed to be pilgrims and strangers in a strange land, citizens of another country, and the church always prospers under persecution.
That doesn't prevent Christians from decrying sin and this nation's complicity in it from the pulpit. Why are the Christian leaders strangely silent about this huge sin problem?
Whenever, I hear a Christian leader rail about the sin of homosexuality and the public's apathy about it, I almost always hear him/her say that the pulpits of America should preach against this sin and call for restrictions on homosexuals. Yet, no public Christian leader calls for restrictions on worshiping other gods.
What is the difference between the two?
Isn't worshiping other gods the bigger problem? If we were all required by law to worship Jesus, wouldn't this problem of homosexuality simply go away on its own?
Why are the Christians calling for a Constitutional ammendment to restrict marriage to their concept of it but not calling for an ammendment to restrict worship?
Doesn't this silence and lack of political activity imply complicity in this sin on the part of our Christian leaders?
There has to be something I don't understand here.
Edited by LinearAq, : Changed "Gods" to "gods" out of respect to the one true God

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