I read that "there are no winners in this debate"

and that is why i no longer go to church.there are two ways to win a debate.in a real debate, the discussion is watched and judged by an external group. the winner is declared based on several points. having the most convincing argument, presentation, being sportsmanlike (see: andre the giant), and so forth.in this forum, you win when everyone else starts berating your opponent for being an imbecile. oh. and when you get a potm and your opponent does not. also, see the above descriptions. only very rarely do you get the real and true victory, when you create a convert. sometimes this is a good thing, and sometimes not; but what do you care, you're right.

which is really funny cause a common argument of people who claim to be right is that the other person can't be right just because they have a million people agreeing with them.ie just because 3 billion christians believe in 7 day creation...This message has been edited by brennakimi, 10-18-2005 11:30 PM

it was an example not a jibe.just because 300 gazoogle firstgraders believe the moon is made of cheese make you happier?This message has been edited by brennakimi, 10-21-2005 10:09 PM