Herepton writes:
complexity: small object containing vast amount of information.
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Using this as a standard or gauge lets compare the computer chip with a single human cell
Let's also compare the entire stack of volumes of the Encyclopaedia Britannica with an elephant. By your standard of complexity, although it contains vastly more information than the encyclopaedia, the elephant is not nearly as complex on account of the fact that an elephant is a rather
large object, larger in any case than the stack of books.
Another funny thought experiment just entered my head: let's compare the Encyclopaedia Britannica with itself. Let's put the books next to the DVD version. Both contain the same amount of information, yet the DVD version is decidedly smaller than the stack of books. So by your standard, the DVD version must be the more complex, even though we cannot extract more information from it. Curious.
You may want to rethink your standard of complexity, or better still, listen to what people have to say about it, who actually know something about information theory.
Herepton writes:
Can any Darwinist describe or re-phrase the Dawkins quote without using terminology inferring design ?
What for? There's no reason to avoid references to design, since there clearly
is design in living nature. It's the implication of an
intelligent designer that's unwarranted. ID is a house of cards that's based on a single flawed idea, namely that the presence of design implies an intelligent designer.
Apart from the obvious logical objections (an intelligent designer must be complex itself, hence designed, so who designed the designer?), computer models have shown that mindless repetition of a relatively simple algorithm can produce elaborate design. So one might say there is a designer of sorts, but it's a process, and it's not intelligent.
This message has been edited by Parasomnium, 15-Sep-2005 02:02 PM
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