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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 24 of 81 (533515)
10-31-2009 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by kbertsche
10-31-2009 1:08 PM


If we have enough energy to push a spacecraft to near c velocities I don't think using some of this energy to counteract g-forces would be much of an issue i.e. utilizing a rotating wheel like in 2001: A Space Odyssey, etc.
Correct me if I am wrong.

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Message 27 of 81 (533524)
10-31-2009 3:19 PM
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10-31-2009 2:22 PM


What if the people were somehow able stay on the side of the centrifuge in the direction that the spaceship is moving as opposed to away from it, thus subtracting from rather than adding to the g forces produced by the engines. Maybe a centrifuge inside a centrifuge going in opposite directions? Not sure. Also g-dampening may work i.e. liquids, etc. It sounds convaluted by I am sure someone could figure this out.
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Message 28 of 81 (533526)
10-31-2009 3:57 PM
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10-31-2009 3:19 PM


I know this is far fetched but what if there is a cabin inside the centrifuge that spins independently of the centrifuge and maintains a position on the side of the spaceship opposed to the g-forces caused by the accelerating engines. The capsule would still be subject to the negative g-force (in relation to the g-forces towards the engine) of the centrifuge thus helping to damnpen the excessive g-forces towards the engine.
Of course getting this all to work would be incredibly complex and the centrifuge would have to spin at incredibly high speeds. If there were a malfunction God help the crew because if they are accelerating faster than 10-11 g's they probably would not survive. Also this would all need to reverse when the ship began deccelerating.
Any thoughts if this could hypothetically work?
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